User talk:DDG9912

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Enjoy your stay at Wiktionary! Apisite (talk) 05:16, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

Grammar of Crimean Tatar language

Hello, in Crimean Tatar language we say aşaycaq and not aşacak (its wrong in grammar), in future there needs to be an "y" after "aşa" and the k ang q letters needs to be changed (aşacak → aşaycaq).

→ aşamaq

	Future
1 Sg.	aşaycaqman
2 Sg.	aşaycaqsıñ
3 Sg.	aşaycaq
1 Pl.	aşaycaqmız
2 Pl.	aşaycaqsıñız
3 Pl.	aşaycaqlar

	Perfect
1 Sg.	aşağanman
2 Sg.	aşağansıñ
3 Sg.	aşağan
1 Pl.	aşağanmız
2 Pl.	aşağansız
3 Pl.	aşağanlar

TayfunEt. (talk) 09:53, 18 September 2022 (UTC)

Regarding ரெண்டு (reṇṭu)

It is not influenced. It is grammatically incorrect to begin words with these letters in Tamil: ய, ர, ல; But when this situation occurs, a silent vowel is added in front of it, compare உரோமம் (urōmam), இரத்தம் (irattam), இயந்திரம் (iyantiram). So in formal speech and writing, the word is written and pronounced that way, but while speaking, the vowel is omitted. And one more thing is, this alternative form is always pronunced like /ɾɛɳɖɯ/ (Tamil way) and not as /ɾeɳɖu/ (Telugu way). It is simply a cognate. Emmanuel Asbon (talk) 17:25, 9 January 2023 (UTC)

Reconstructions

Please do not create reconstructions for languages you are not familiar with. Proto-Iranian *aw became Proto-Scythian *ū. --{{victar|talk}} 00:34, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

Please read Problem of Archaism and Innovation in the Eastern Iranian Languages, w:Ossetian language#Vowels or w:Scythian languages first. It is extremely clear that aw results on ō, not ū. Remember that in Ossetian vowels u and ū are first merged and then centralized to y in Iron and retained as u in Digor; then, ō is raised to u in Iron to fill empty space but retained as o in Digor. Other Scythian languages may feature the vowel as ū but must also consider the vowel system of Digor Ossetian, which has little one-by-one correspondence with Iron Ossetian or other Scythian languages.

DDG9912 01:22, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

Yes, most late Old Iranian languages monophthongized to *ō, but Scythian, and elsewhere in NE Iranian, went on to become *ū, compare *dáwš. For an example of Old Ossetic -o-, see RC:Proto-Iranian/Hnā́ma. --{{victar|talk}} 02:43, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

In the case of *dáwš, this is either a sporadic or limited sound change, since similarly monosyllabic words containing the diphthong are very rare. While in the case of *Hnā́ma, rounding of *ā before nasal consonants first occur only in late medieval periods (modern Ossetian don vs. Yassic/Jassic dan "water") [source: Iranica Online]. Again, no source is saying that the diphthong *aw is diphthongized to ū in Scythian. From now, stop continuing this edit war to defend your views on clearly incorrect Scythian monophthongization to ū. DDG9912 03:51, 13 December 2023 (UTC)