Talk:թեշի

@Vahagn Petrosyan: the Persian word is unrelated. It is related to Kurdish teşî "hand-spindle", a common word in all Kurdish dialects.--Calak (talk) 22:21, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

I am not sure is dial. Persian دش (doš), دشکی (doški, “distaff”) related or not.--Calak (talk) 08:29, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

@Calak, the relationship with Kurdish was already recognized by Amatuni (1912). Unless we offer a better alternative to Martirosyan's derivation from taš- ‘to hew’, I would not dismiss his etymology. The Kurdish Wiktionary derives teşî from PIE *terkʷ- (“to turn”), whence Sanskrit तर्कु (tarku), but Cheung does not list these words under the corresponding entry on page 380.

Note that if Turkish -r- is not secondary, we can reconstruct *թերշ- (*tʻerš-), which regularly developed into թեշ (tʻeš): compare քարշեմ (kʻaršem) > քաշել (kʻašel), խարշեմ (xaršem) > խաշել (xašel). --Vahag (talk) 11:03, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

Thank you. The Persian equivalent is from OIr. *dau "to run". Now compare teşî with and tewişîn, tewişandin (“to stumble, rock, shake, sway, swing”).--Calak (talk) 13:24, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

I can't judge on these. The first looks like Persian تشیره (tašīra, “ball of coloured stones, marble”). --Vahag (talk) 15:00, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

Persian تشیره (tašīra) is related to . For teşî we can also think about OIr. *tāp "to twist, wind".--Calak (talk) 16:35, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

I also found Munji čašīkȧ "spindle", Yidgha češo "spindle" (č- ~ t-) and Yagnobi tašk "spindle".--Calak (talk) 11:45, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

These have already been connected to Kurdish by Morgenstierne, but ESIJa does not list the Kurdish under *častra-. --Vahag (talk) 17:15, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

for initial *č- > Kurdish *t-, see " Origine du système consonantique de la langue kurde", p 89.--Calak (talk) 15:11, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

@Calak, then Armenian may be borrowed from Kurdish. By the way, where did you find Munji čašīkȧ "spindle"? --Vahag (talk) 14:33, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

Hassandoust, M. (2011), A Comparative-Thematic Dictionary of the New Iranian Languages and Dialects, vol. 2, p 674.--Calak (talk) 14:47, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

@Calak: is this Tat language (Caucasus) or Tati language (Iran)? Also, what is the source? Vahag (talk) 21:33, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

@Vahagn Petrosyan: Hi. No, it is a NW Iranian language. This is my source [1].--Calak (talk) 21:40, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

@Calak: thanks. I believe this falls under code shm (Shahrudi). Vahag (talk) 20:39, 6 February 2022 (UTC)