User talk:Rishabhbhat

अतिथिदेवो भव, unless अतिथि is a troll.

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Enjoy your stay at Wiktionary! ·~ dictátor·mundꟾ 02:43, 13 June 2021 (UTC)

Hi, thank you for the useful links. I have added a Babel to my userpage. Rishabhbhat (talk) 04:04, 13 June 2021 (UTC)

Module Error(s) in Template:ks-conj

Right now, every single page that uses this template is in CAT:E, though there's no error displayed in the entries themselves. That means that one of the 47 invocations of Module:deva-last-char-type is throwing a module error, but we can't see it because the #ifeq: ParserFunction sees error messages as just so much text. I don't have time to say much more right now and I don't know enough lua to spot the exact error, but it makes me nervous when I see someone doing arithmetic on string length without testing it: what if then length is less then 3? can the string function handle negative parameters? Chuck Entz (talk) 15:18, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

@Chuck Entz am currently attempting to trace the error, thanks for pointing it out. Rishabhbhat (talk) 15:59, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

@Chuck Entz The issue has been resolved, I was calling the wrong argument in the function. Thank you for bringing it to my attention. Rishabhbhat (talk) 03:39, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

A question about Kashmiri Naskh/Nastaliq orthography

Hey, thanks for adding Kashmiri entries. There is a point I am confused about. Where final short vowels are indicated with the help of an Urdu 'hē', does the vowel diacritic fall under the consonant or the hē that is added? Most Kashmiri books in Arabic script are not very legible so it's unclear to me. I have been added them directly after the consonantal character but your approach is generating the perfect Latin transcription (without a final h). Do you have any idea about this? Dor kot, rut zuv. Sinonquoi (talk) 11:36, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

@Sinonquoi ji the vowel is added after the gol he, for example بہٕ (bɨ) is be + he + saayi.

Or zuv te dor koth! Rishabhbhat (talk) 12:14, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

Descendant

Hi. Grierson lists the Kashmiri descendant, so does Turner. Though the direct etymon has been called ūṣmā f. Thank you. ·~ dictátor·mundꟾ 11:26, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

Yes, I read those too. That's why I said no contemporary dictionary (such as Jammu Kashmir Cultural Academy's Kashir dictionary) lists it - at least, not that any I could find. Grierson's is quite old and has quite a few outdated terms. But I'll add it as a descendant, if not an entry. Rishabhbhat (talk) 11:56, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

On Wiktionary we also add obsolete terms and senses. Being a descriptive dictionary, we add all kinds of words. Saying just for information, not that you must create such entries at my bidding, but anyone else who wants to create them is welcome. Thanks. ·~ dictátor·mundꟾ 04:09, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

👍 Rishabhbhat (talk) 04:18, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

123Shariq

This User is adding Kashmiri articles with many errors. May I request you to track his contributions? Please Check the information he is adding, and Remove the Errors from the Articles. Thank You.--4SnavaA (talk) 04:35, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

👍 will do, although I think it's more likely they're simply not clear about entry layout, than that it is active vandalism. Because the words they are adding do indeed exist. Thank you for proactiveness. --Rishabhbhat (talk) 06:53, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

Yes I also think so. But something like this is pushy- rather than going ahead and checking it He just removed it. Anyways I say jsut keep a check on His edits, whether it is wrong entry layout of the article or Wrong Meaning or anything else you can do. Thank You.--4SnavaA (talk) 07:55, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

گاش

Hello again. Could you please add Kashmiri to the article گاش (gāś, “light”)? For multiword terms, Etymology is usually not needed, when the meaning is glaringly obviously. When the meaning is not so obvious, still it is not useful to take it as both a Compound And a Multi word term like 15 minutes of fame It is not Written as "from 15 +‎ minutes +‎ of +‎ fame". Hence, I want to request you to add Kashmiri meaning to the article گاش, so that the Etymology of زوٗنہٕ گاش‎ (zūnhụ gāś) can be removed, Without Losing any important information Because there is nothing so special in the Etymology and the 2 components are seperated by a space and that's Why it is very obvious. Thank You for understanding, --4SnavaA (talk) 16:04, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

 Done But the word is not actually separated, it is actually a single word. The saayi sign in Kashmiri Perso-Arabic ( ٕ ) usually causes words to be broken off while writing. Again thanks for being so active. Rishabhbhat (talk) 05:32, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

Now I don't know about Kashmiri, but what I know is that in the existing article's page Title, there is a space. Without It will be زوٗنہٕگاش And not زوٗنہٕ گاش‎. If there Is no space then Please correct the Title, and then The Etymology should be there (because then it will not be a Multi word term). If the current title is correct, and the word is Written with space then I will remove the Etymology. Thanks,--4SnavaA (talk) 06:42, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

No, there is indeed supposed to be a space in the title, but it is not a multiword term. There has been a discussion on this on User_talk:Imranqazi90. Saayi sign (ɨ in IPA), as I have previously written, is often written as breaking off words. Pinging @Imranqazi90, Sinonquoi for their thoughts as I may be mistaken. Rishabhbhat (talk) 07:51, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

Rishabh brother is correct. زوٗنہٕ گاش is the correct term and not زوٗنہٕگاش. There should be a space between both. Imranqazi90 (talk) 09:02, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

Is it a single word term or multiword term @Imranqazi90 ji, would be grateful for your opinion. @4SnavaA is convinced it is a two words, and is continuously removing info from the page.

ज़ूनॖगाश has no google results because Kashmiri is a dying language, with little to no online presence. Devanagari is even less used than Perso-Arabic, and unlikely to generate results for most terms.

Rishabhbhat (talk) 15:04, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

@Rishabhbhat It is a single word brother but it is written separately. Imranqazi90 (talk) 20:17, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

multi-word simply Means consisting of more than one word. If there is a space, then It's multiword. If no space, then it is a compound. More examples of these can be seen at [1].--4SnavaA (talk) 15:23, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

I would hesitate to make such judgments without knowledge of the language in question and its writing system. As I understand it, there are even languages where each syllable is separated by a space. If that category is populated automatically, there's always the possibility that it might be wrong for some languages. Chuck Entz (talk) 16:34, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

@Rishabhbhat, @4SnavaA, @Chuck Entz This is more a case of orthography than anything else. زوٗنہٕ گاش is completely apparent to a native speaker as a compound and doesn't need to be given an etymology, let alone notes about the cases of the words involved which will in any case be repetitive and not helpful after a point. If written as one word, زوٗنٕگاش would be correct, not زوٗنہٕگاش as the heh goal (Ux06C1) is added before tacking on the short vowel diacritic. This practice comes from Urdu/Persian where the number of vowels is lower. While, زوٗنٕگاش would be correct, all Nastaliq Kashmiri sources I've seen will break the word at the point of the /ɨ/ short vowel. This is done even word-internally about 90% of the times (for some reason, even the authoritative JKCA dictionary is not consistent with this). For compounds, this requires the first word to be given a new entry, which I am heavily against. If there is a way to instead redirect زوٗنہٕ to زوٗن, it should be adopted and used throughout, and the practise of creating inflection pages for every single word avoided. For single-word terms, I'd suggest using continuous script and avoiding unnecessary, ugly breaks. Sinonquoi (talk) 16:57, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

I am fairly certain زوٗنہٕ is the ablative singular of زوٗن and as such deserves its own entry.
Even I would prefer a cleaner, continuous script, but what can we do ? JKCA is considered the authoritative dictionary, we should stick to its conventions. Maybe the unbroken spelling can be set as an alternative in the def. Rishabhbhat (talk) 01:45, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

On an unrelated note, त्रठ/ترَٛٹھ‎‎ is the FWOTD for 26th, I'm so happy. 😄 It's my personal favourite Kashmiri word. Rishabhbhat (talk) 03:38, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

Congratulations brother ☺️ I agree with you that we have to stick to conventions. I have never seen word like Zoonü gāsh written in continuous script as broken spelling is the norm and is part of the Perso-arabic writting. Why should we keep unbroken words when they aren't used by people itself. Imranqazi90 (talk) 08:46, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

Quote date

Hello. You need to provide the exact date (I mean, year) for the quote in this entry. You have stated the author’s lifespan. If the exact date be unknown, then just write 14th c. or similar. Thank you. ·~ dictátor·mundꟾ 17:17, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Yes, the date was unknown. Rishabhbhat (talk) 04:18, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

User:Humzah Rouf Phumboo

I posted on their talk page about how they, rather nonsensically, created entries with the POS as "Numeral" when they were clearly regular nouns but they seem to have ignored me...perhaps you can talk to them and/or fix the entries? 37.110.218.43 11:58, 16 February 2022 (UTC)