User talk:Oh! Tea

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昨晚剛好在閱覽 Category:Teochew pronunciation，還是蠻空的w 好耶

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—Suzukaze-c (talk) 05:54, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Adding whitespace Inside templates

Please don't.

Our Chinese modules often extract information from the wikitext of other entries and it affects other entries in unpredictable ways. When you added spaces to {{zh-pron}} at 中國, that made it so {{zh-syn-list}} at Thesaurus:中國 was unable to parse the parameters in {{zh-pron}} at 中國. At the same time, {{zh-syn-saurus}} in another section at 中國 extracted the arguments from the {{zh-syn-list}} at Thesaurus:中國 and tried to recreate the output of that template, with the same results. There were two other entries that were also extracting pronunciation information from {{zh-pron}} at 中國.

Your edit made no difference in the output of {{zh-pron}} at 中國, but it caused module errors in 4 entries. What's more, anyone using a template that works the same way as the other ones I mentioned would get an impossible-to-debug module error simply by using it to link to any one of the entries you edited. The only way I was able to figure it out was by going through the edit histories of every entry in the transclusion lists and looking for recent edits.

It's okay if you don't understand everything about what I just told you. I just wanted you to see how really strange and complicated things can go wrong when you do something like that. Fortunately, @Suzukaze-c has already removed the spaces you added to all the other entries, so there won't be any more module errors.

More simply: don't change the wikitext just to make it look different in the edit window. You can break things that way.

Thanks! Chuck Entz (talk) 06:43, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

@Chuck Entz: It seems to be because of the Visual editor, not a conscious effort to add spaces. —Suzukaze-c (talk) 07:14, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

@Suzukaze-c: Thank you. and @Chuck Entz: sorry about that, I didn't mean to do that, it's just that there wasn't a "Edit source" button like Chinese Wikipedia does and I was used to it, so I just used the visual editor and didn't switch to source editing, I'll definitely be more careful from now on. Sorry again for causing the troubles. --Austin Zhang (talk) 14:18, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

㩼 vs 加 in Teochew

Hi, may I ask what's the difference between 㩼 (zoi7) and 加 (gê1) in Teochew? They both seem to mean 多, but are they used differently, and if so, how? 可以簡單描述和解釋一下嗎？有例句就更好。謝謝！RcAlex36 (talk) 16:27, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

I think they are basically the same and are interchangeable in most case. In my opinion 加 gê1 is more of a verb/adverb, e.g. “伊比我加10歲/伊加我10歲”（“he/she is 10 years older than me”); 㩼zoi7 is more of a adjective, like in “很㩼物件”(many things), however, they are interchangeable in the first case i.e. as a adverb/verb,(伊比我㩼10歲/伊㩼我10歲is acceptable and used in daily speech), while the later one i.e as a adjective isn’t. (很加物件 is incorrect) (I hope it make sense to you, cuz I don’t really know much about 詞性 (parts of speech?) in Chinese language) Austin Zhang (talk) 04:36, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

How would you say 多一點 and 太多了 in Teochew? Are both interchangeable 㩼 and 加 in these cases? RcAlex36 (talk) 06:11, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

多一點 would be “ 㩼(加)滴囝”, and 太多了 would be “佮㩼了”. Just like I said above. However, in the second case, I think “佮加了” would be acceptable colloquially, it just sound a bit weird. Austin Zhang (talk) 07:40, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

I see. What about 最多 in Teochew? And would it be right to say that 加 always involves a comparison, while 㩼 does not? Also, do you say 很 (heng2) instead of 好 (hoh4) (or 過) for "very" colloquially? RcAlex36 (talk) 07:45, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

@RcAlex36: Teochews in Singapore will say 上㩼, but I'm not sure about in China. The dog2 (talk) 16:54, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

@RcAlex36: Sorry for not replying, was going through something. 最多 could be 上㩼, 最㩼, or 上加, 最加,. And what you said is exactly what I was trying to say but failed to: 加 always involves a comparison, that being said, even when you're using 加 without comparing, it is still implied that there was something could be compared to, e.g. 伊好㩼歲 means that "he/she is very old", so does 伊好加歲, but the latter is implying that he/she is older than the talker and the listeners, or just simply older than most other people. --Austin Zhang (talk) 17:24, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

Toechew

Hi! I'd just like to ask what dialect of Teochew you speak. Thanks! Mar vin kaiser (talk) 07:12, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

Puning, it's like a Jieyang-Chaoyang mixed dialect as far as I know. Austin Zhang (talk) 21:28, 22 March 2024 (UTC)