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Sanskrit.
The conjugation table is massively wrong. Outside the indicative and optative active, many of the forms use the very weak stem ghn- (basically, the weak forms whose ending starts with a vowel). This currently seems to be beyond the power of Module:sa-verb to handle other than by explicitly overriding many forms. (Or can @Dragonoid76 refute me?)
I propose reverting 2409:8955:3058:c93:bc5a:5a7f:ea76:8790's edit of 21 November 2023, and then ideally looking into whether using {{sa-conj}} does actually simplify it. (It may make it easier to copy the conjugation table to other scripts.) --RichardW57m (talk) 14:46, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
- Not even the indicative was right, so I've reverted to the previous conjugation table (which however only shows the present indicative). I don't know how flexible
{{sa-conj}}is or whether it can be applied to a verb as irregular as this. I definitely don't understand why{{sa-conj}}puts third person on the top and first person on the bottom, which looks absolutely perverse. —Mahāgaja · talk 19:20, 12 February 2024 (UTC)- @Mahagaja @RichardW57m It can be done with
{{sa-conj}}. I've redone it now, so take a look. Putting the third-person first was a decision made in Template:sa-conj-1-6. This template is just a redesign of that. I don't think it's an issue, but you can open a discussion if you're against it. Dragonoid76 (talk) 21:22, 12 February 2024 (UTC) - @Mahagaja: It can be seen as fairly regular - strong stem han-, weak stem before resonants han-, before other consonants ha- and weak stem before vowels ghna-. That's not something I see the conjugation module currently supporting. There are a few irregularities on top of that, and there may be issues with additional forms as what you see as badly irregular started to get straightened out. The new encoding, though, maximises complexity - it seems that every form is given explicitly, and
{{sa-conj}}handles alternative forms badly - one has to list the supplemented forms as well as the alternatives. One can cut the number of forms to be specified manually down by specifying the weak stem as han, but that still leaves the need for a lot of overrides. - As to starting with the third person, well, it makes sense to start with the citation form, and long ago I learnt that that was how things were done out east. After all, the Sanskrit term for 'third person' is literally 'first person' and Semitic conjugation tables started with the 3rd person singular masculine, and Egyptian conjuɡation tables consequently start with 3sm sd̠mf. --RichardW57 (talk) 22:15, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Mahagaja @RichardW57m It can be done with
Looks RFV-resolved to me. —Caoimhin ceallach (talk) 21:26, 4 November 2024 (UTC)