Wiktionary talk:Votes/2019-06/Language code into reference template names

Rationale for having the vote

Recently, there were some renames of reference templates that added a language code, including {{R:De Vaan 2008}} to {{R:itc:EDL}} and {{R:Derksen 2008}} to {{R:sla:EDSIL}}. If there is consensus for these kinds of renames, we may perform a systematic rename and have a unified (consistent) naming practice. Template talk:R:itc:EDL suggests there could be consensus, so let's have a look. --Dan Polansky (talk) 08:10, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

Some dictionaries cover multiple languages

In general I prefer having the language code in the template name, and I almost always include it when creating a new reference template, and I have moved some templates to names including the language code. But one reference template I use a whole lot, {{R:DIL}}, doesn't lend itself to this, because it covers Old Irish (sga), Middle Irish (mga), and Early Modern Irish (ga up to the 17th century or so). So I've never renamed it, because it isn't clear what code should be used. Even cel-gae, the code for the Goidelic family, isn't appropriate because the DIL doesn't cover all Goidelic languages (it doesn't cover Primitive Irish, Manx, Scottish Gaelic, or Irish after the 17th century). —Mahāgaja · talk 10:30, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

I added "as long as the language code can be meaningfully determined" to the proposal to address this. --Dan Polansky (talk) 11:58, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

Status quo

The current practice is mixed. The practice without language code seems to be the older one. Templates without language code include {{R:Webster 1913}}, {{R:OneLook}}, {{R:DRAE}}, {{R:TLFi}}, {{R:Duden}}, and many others, including those that I created. Templates with language code include {{R:uk:SUM-11}}, {{R:sl:Fran}}, and many others as well. --Dan Polansky (talk) 12:09, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

Subject matter or language in which written

1. Is the code supposed to be the language in which the reference is written?

2. Is the code supposed to be the language which the reference covers?

3. What code applies to a bi-lingual dictionary?

4. If a work contains articles written in many langues does the language of the introductory material govern? DCDuring (talk) 14:45, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

@DCDuring: I'm not sure how you can cast a vote without even having a basic understanding of what we're voting on. If you read the vote page, it's quite clear that we're talking about #2, and re:#4, as also discussed therein and above, if the subject spans multiple language families, then no language code is applicable. --{{victar|talk}} 20:12, 18 July 2019 (UTC)