Wiktionary talk:Requests for verification/Non-English

• Wiktionary:Beer_parlour/2017/April#Splitting_WT:RFV
• Wiktionary:Beer_parlour/2017/May#WT:RFV_is_now_split

As the mayor of Wiktionary

I hereby declare this non-English RFV page open. Equinox ◑ 19:19, 12 May 2017 (UTC)

Hurray! Maybe now my browser won't take a full minute to load the page.__Gamren (talk) 08:35, 14 May 2017 (UTC)

Are you the English or non-English mayor? :D — SMUconlaw (talk) 09:16, 14 May 2017 (UTC)

As this is the non-English page I assumed he was claiming to be the mayor#Spanish of Wiktionary. - [The]DaveRoss 11:59, 14 May 2017 (UTC)

Now, about that pothole on my street... Chuck Entz (talk) 12:16, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

 Done Added to Category:Things on Chuck's street with consonant pseudo-digraphs. Equinox ◑ 13:58, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

Solved RFVs

The following RFVs seem be solved, and so could be archived (etc.):

• WT:RFVN#жабар, resguarder, 共和社會主義越南, นิดน้อย], 壤, 天人 & トトナム, va fa Napoli: RFV failed
• WT:RFVN#Peñeyrúa, 巴紮, Ruthe, Offizier, ananas: Cited for more than a week without being challenged = RFV passed
• WT:RFVN#punctus, WT:RFVN#camus: Cited (kinda) for more than a week without objection
• WT:RFVN#sophos, sophus: Partly cited (partly kinda) and partly uncited for over a month.
• WT:RFVN#Deuts: Another term got cited and the entry got changed accordingly
• WT:RFVN#genus: Uncited for over a month; and in another sense genor- is cited for more than a week without objection
• WT:RFVN#gelus: Uncited for over a month, and it now has a note in the entry
• WT:RFVN#nero / Latin: Uncited for over a month, and there is Nerō. (And in diff it was "nerō" but with the derived terms "Nerōniānus, Neronian".)
• WT:RFVN#Olisipo: Gender uncited for over a month (and it's not like nobody searched for it), and it now has a note in the entry.

Maybe for the future:

• 14 June - WT:RFVN#Hall: Cited for more than a week without objection
• 15 June - WT:RFVN#krevmaizo: Cited for more than a week
• 16 June - WT:RFVN#Unkonventionelle Spreng- und Brandvorrichtung: Cited for more than a week
• 17 June - WT:RFVN#illic and istic: RFV failed, and declension should be like in Allen and Greenough

-84.161.58.63 16:36, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

Archive

Should this page be split and the old part archived? It's getting way too long. —Caoimhin ceallach (talk) 15:32, 12 September 2021 (UTC)

Solved discussions get removed from this page, and properly they get archived on pages like Talk:qəpik. The real issue is that some older discussions weren't closed yet. If the discussion set for 1 month and there aren't enough quotes, entries could be removed. So for example, December 2017 → Шахла → Шахля could simply be closed and the entries be deleted as there aren't three quotes for the Russian terms. Apparently, no-one with the ability to delete entries took care of it yet. --Myrelia (talk) 10:41, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

So I can go and tidy up old rfvs in the prescribed way? First close and after a week copy the discussion and delete. Of course that will only help if others do it too. For many languages I don't want to get involved and the table of contents alone has ~650 lines. —Caoimhin ceallach (talk) 20:37, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

Double or triple archive

@Chuck Entz, EncycloPetey, Hippietrail, Paul G, Ruakh, SemperBlotto, Stephen G. Brown, Surjection, This page is very difficult to view, and a struggle to edit. I understand the difficulty of criteria for archiving by language, a..z, by date of first edit. Probably just a link to the Talk of each lemma, deleted or not deleted? Is there a solution? Thank you ‑‑Sarri.greek ^♫ I 23:12, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

@Sarri.greek See Wiktionary:Beer parlour/2022/June § The State of WT:RFDN. AG202 (talk) 02:30, 29 June 2022 (UTC)

Thank you @AG202, for this link. It seems to me, that an archivist needs to be consulted. I know nothing about archival science (wikipedia). But there is also, common sense. I would go about it like this:

Discussions take place at the lemmaTALK. If the lemma is deleted, the TALK remains (thus explaining the delete-rationale to future editors who would wish to recreate it)

Each word is archived in 4 ways (nothing more than the link-toTALK, no ToC no Level2, L3). Just plain text. To find a word, readers must use Control+F or a specific Template:search.RFXX

0) possibly, a quasi-sortable-table central page with the following criteria

word	script	language	year	del/rem
Talk:α	Grk	el Greek	2019	rem

Or, pages

1) a..z+α...ω+whatever alphabetical sequence. L2=the name of script. The Ls can be split to script pages.

2) by language, L2=language. This can be split to language pages.

3) by date of the RF... request. L2=years. This can be split to year pages.

4) Deleted. Remained.

Example for scripts, L2

= = α...ω = =

{sort=1| Talk:α, Talk:β, Talk:γ, ... }

It is a way i would imagine some solution. I am certain there are better ones. Thank you ‑‑Sarri.greek ^♫ I 04:06, 29 June 2022 (UTC)

This page is still way too long. 70.172.194.25 18:58, 25 December 2022 (UTC)

I guess part of the problem is that people seem to be hesitant about closing non-English RFVs that aren't going anywhere. Given that other languages will always have less pairs of eyes available it's fair enough not to close these after one month on the dot, but entries can always be re-created and if nobody has responded at all for 2 years it's probably time to call it a day. —Al-Muqanna المقنع (talk) 19:43, 25 December 2022 (UTC)

Well, we've hit the point where it's throwing memory errors at the bottom. —Al-Muqanna المقنع (talk) 15:56, 30 December 2022 (UTC)