Wiktionary talk:Northern Thai transliteration
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[edit]For Northern Thai in the Thai script using Bangkok conventions, there is a case for basing the Romanisation on the Paiboon system. However, I for one loather the system of t/dt/d, and would prefer th/t/d. The aspirates are much rarer in Northern Thai than in Central Thai. --RichardW57m (talk) 13:33, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
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[edit]Transliterated Words
[edit]This list was extracted on Saturday 16 November 2019
51 words:
| Lemma | Transliterator | Pronunciation | Rough scheme | Orthography |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| ตาล | RichardW57 | No | toneless Paiboon | Neutral |
| พลู | Hippietrail | No | tone-ambiguous Paiboon | Rup pariwat |
| เจ้า | Octahedon80 | No | Paiboon (or RTGS+tone) | Neutral |
| ᨠ᩠ᩅᩣ᩠ᨦ | Alifshinobi | No | RTGS + vowel length | Lanna |
| ᨠᩱ᩵ | Alifshinobi | No | RTGS or toneless Paiboon | Lanna |
| ᨡᩮᩢ᩶ᩣᨧᩲ | Alifshinobi | No | toneless, aw | Lanna |
| ᨡᩱ᩵ | Alifshinobi | No | RTGS or Paiboon | Lanna |
| ᨢ᩠ᩅᨯ | Alifshinobi | No | "khwad" | Lanna |
| ᨤᩢ᩠ᨶᨤᩣ᩠ᨠ | Alifshinobi | No | RTGS | Lanna |
| ᨤᩫ᩠ᨶ | Alifshinobi | No | RTGS | Lanna |
| ᨥᩁᩣᩅᩤᩈ | Alifshinobi | No | RTGS | Lanna |
| ᨦᩪ | Alifshinobi | No | RTGS | Lanna |
| ᨧᩮᩢ᩶ᩣ | Alifshinobi | IPA | RTGS | Lanna |
| ᨧᩲ | Alifshinobi | No | toneless Paiboon | Lanna |
| ᨩ᩶ᩣ᩠ᨦ | Alifshinobi | No | ISO 11940-2 | Lanna |
| ᨬᩥ᩠ᨦ | Alifshinobi | No | RTGS ('ny') | Lanna |
| ᨯᩥ᩠ᨶ | Alifshinobi | No | RTGS/Paiboon | Lanna |
| ᨯᩦ | Hippietrail | No | RTGS | Lanna |
| ᨲᩣ᩠ᩃ | RichardW57 | No | toneless Paiboon | Lanna |
| ᨲᩪ | Lo Ximiendo | No | Paiboon | Lanna |
| ᨲᩮᩢ᩵ᩣ | Alifshinobi | No | RTGS | Lanna |
| ᨴ᩠ᨿᩁ | Alifshinobi | No | RTGS | Lanna |
| ᨴᩣ | Alifshinobi | No | RTGS | Lanna |
| ᨶᩫ᩠ᨠ | Alifshinobi | No | RTGS or toneless Paiboon | Lanna |
| ᨶ᩶ᩣᩴ | Alifshinobi | No | RTGS or toneless Paiboon | Lanna |
| ᨸᩖᩣ | Alifshinobi | No | RTGS | Lanna |
| ᨹᩫ᩠ᨾ | Alifshinobi | No | RTGS | Lanna |
| ᨻᩮᩥ᩠᩵ᨶ | Alifshinobi | No | RTGS | Lanna |
| ᨻᩱ | Alifshinobi | No | RTGS | Lanna |
| ᨼᩢ᩠ᨶ | Alifshinobi | No | RTGS or Paiboon | Lanna |
| ᨼᩱ | Alifshinobi | No | RTGS or Paiboon | Lanna |
| ᨼ᩶ᩣ | Alifshinobi | No | toneless Paiboon | Lanna |
| ᨽᩣᩇᩣ | Octahedron80 | No | Graphic, but without diacritics | Lanna |
| ᨾᩣ | Alifshinobi | IPA | RTGS | Lanna |
| ᨾᩦ | Alifshinobi | IPA | RTGS | Lanna |
| ᨾᩮᩬᩥᨦ | Malurian123 | No | unidentified! | Lanna |
| ᨾᩯ᩠ᩅ | Alifshinobi | No | RTGS | Lanna |
| ᨾ᩶ᩣ | Alifshinobi | No | Paiboon | Lanna |
| ᩀᩣ | Alifshinobi | No | Paiboon | Lanna |
| ᩁ᩠ᩅᩣ᩠ᨿᨲᩕᩦ | Alifshinobi | No | RTGS | Lanna |
| ᩁᩢ᩠ᨠ | Alifshinobi | No | RTGS | Lanna |
| ᩁᩣ | Alifshinobi | IPA | RTGS | Lanna |
| ᩁᩪ᩶ | Alifshinobi | IPA | RTGS | Lanna |
| ᩃᩫ᩠ᨾ | Alifshinobi | No | RTGS or Paiboon | Lanna |
| ᩅ᩠ᨿᨦ | Alifshinobi | No | RTGS | Lanna |
| ᩉ᩠ᨾᩣ | Alifshinobi | No | toneless Paiboon | Lanna |
| ᩉ᩠ᩅᩫ | Alifshinobi | No | RTGS | Lanna |
| ᩉᩢ᩠ᨶ | Hippietrail | No | RTGS or toneless Paiboon | Lanna |
| ᩉᩩᨾ | Hippietrail | No | RTGS or toneless Paiboon | Lanna |
| ᩉᩯ᩵ᩉᩯ᩠ᨶ | RichardW57 | No | RTGS | Lanna |
| ᩋᩪ᩶ | Alifshinobi | IPA | RTGS | Lanna |
--RichardW57 (talk) 02:27, 17 November 2019 (UTC) --RichardW57 (talk) 14:19, 17 November 2019 (UTC)
Untransliterated Words
[edit]The totality of lemmas on 16 November was was 88 words, so 88 - 51 leaves 37 words. As not adding a transliteration may be significant, I have also recorded the original authors of these documents. The overwhelming majority of entries with transliterations were assigned their final transliteration at creation.
| Lemma | Creator | Pronunciation[1] | Orthography |
|---|---|---|---|
| ก่อ | Octahedron80 | no | neutral |
| กือ | Octahedron80 | soft | rup pariwat |
| กื๋อ | Octahedron80 | soft | thap sap |
| จอ | Octahedron80 | no | undetermined |
| บาป | RichardW57 | no | neutral |
| แพง | Octahedron80 | no | rup pariwat |
| ฟ้อน | Anonymous | no | neutral, but thap sap morphology |
| ภาษา | RichardW57 | no | neutral |
| สาวก | Richard W57 | no | neutral |
| เหตุ | RichardW57 | no | neutral |
| แห่แหน | RichardW57 | no | neutral |
| ᨠᩨ | Octahedron80 | no | Lanna |
| ᨤ᩠ᩅᩣ᩠ᨿ | anonymous | no | Lanna |
| ᨩᩬᨦ | Alifshinobi | IPA | Lanna |
| ᨩᩲ᩶ | Lo Ximiendo | IPA | Lanna |
| ᨯᩣ᩠ᩅ | anonymous | IPA | Lanna |
| ᨯᩮᩥᩬᩁ | RichardW57 | soft | Lanna |
| ᨯᩮᩬᩥᩁ | anonymous | no | Lanna |
| ᨳᩴ᩶ᩣ | anonymous | soft | Lanna |
| ᨳ᩶ᩣᩴ | anonymous | no | Lanna |
| ᨴ᩠ᩅ᩶ᨦ | Alifshinobi | no | Lanna |
| ᨶᩴ᩶ᩣ | Richard W57 | soft | Lanna |
| ᨷᩤ᩠ᨸ | RichardW57 | soft | Lanna |
| ᨸᩦ | Octahedron 80 deleted transliteration | no | Lanna |
| ᨽᩣᩈᩣ | RichardW57 | no | Lanna |
| ᨾᩮᩬᩥᨦ (misspelling) | RichardW57 | no | Lanna |
| ᩁᩮᩥᩬᩋ | RichardW57 | soft | Lanna |
| ᩁᩮᩬᩥᩋ | anonymous | no | Lanna |
| ᩃᩣ | Octahedron | no | Lanna |
| ᩃᩮᩥᩢ᩠ᨠ | anonymous | no | Lanna |
| ᩃᩮᩥᩬᨠ | Richard W57 | soft | Lanna |
| ᩃᩮᩬᩥᨠ | anonymus | no | Lanna |
| ᩅᩬᩴ᩶ | Octahedron80 | no | Lanna |
| ᩅᩴ᩶ᩬ | RichardW57 | soft | Lanna |
| ᩈᩮᩬᩥ᩵ᩋ | Octahedron80 | no | Lanna |
| ᩉᩫ᩠ᩅ | RichardW57 | soft | Lanna |
- ^ 'Soft' means the entry may be interpreted as a soft redirect, so giving the pronunciation on the page would not be appropriate.
--RichardW57 (talk) 13:50, 17 November 2019 (UTC)
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