User talk:Zanimum

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Citations:instead

That's actually a use of instead of as a preposition, not of instead as an adverb. --EncycloPetey 14:58, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Hi EncycloPetey, I didn't realize instead of was considered a different part of speech than instead, but in retrospect it makes sense. Thanks for your input and cleanup. (I've never really contributed to Wiktionary, I've always gravitated towards Wikipedia and Wikinews; I was looking for hello synonyms, but got sidetracked by the citations feature.) -- Zanimum 15:26, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

If you enjoy the citations aspect of Wiktionary, you could be of great help. Even if you add citations only occasionally, you seem to have learned the basics quickly. BTW, I've added a 1623 Shakespeare quote, both to extend the chronological range of citations for instead of and to demonstrate some of the issue with citing Shakespeare. The First Folio is the edition I usually cite because I have a facsimile copy and so can look up exactly the capitalization, orthography, and spelling that was actually used instead of relying on modern edited editions that do not preserve these features. --EncycloPetey 15:30, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Funny funny. Um... question here, that Wikisource:Citations doesn't seem to deal with: What's allowed in terms of quotes? Should it always be literature, or can news accounts or other non-fiction works be included? With sources modern enough to still be under copyright, are there any no-nos, so long as I keep the quotes short? Thanks! -- Zanimum 17:36, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Non-fiction is welcomed. Sources need to be "durably archived", which covers newspapers, magazines, academic journals, and a variety of sources. As long as quotes are reasonably short and identify the source completely, works still under copyright aren't considered a problem. --EncycloPetey 19:14, 11 July 2009 (UTC)