User talk:Scottmacstra

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Hello

Hey Scott, please respond here if you get this message! - TheDaveRoss 17:07, 11 September 2018 (UTC)

I'm still hoping that someone at Wiktionary can tell me how to add a new word - only in the sense that it is a different part of speech from a past or present participle that is already on your list! What I have been trying doesn't work since it seems to REPLACE the part of speech that I'm merely hoping to add to, so it gets redacted, though some may be redacted because you don't feel it deserves being recognized as a noun or an adjective, despite a host of other examples of such usage. Just this one thing, if there is a simple "trick" I can apply to avoid being redacted all the time? Scottmacstra (talk) 13:59, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

There is no trick, it is just a matter of knowing how the editing process works. Can you provide an example of a word which you would like to add a part of speech to and I can help you through the process? - TheDaveRoss 14:26, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

Please, can you explain just how I can add an adjective meaning for a past participle, such as "united" for example, if it were only listed as a verb as a past participle. When I've tried to do it, I have apparently erased the verb definition, inadvertently. Please help with this single request, as there are a host of examples where the adjective meaning should be recognized, as there are many cases where the usage is common.Scottmacstra (talk) 19:08, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

I have created a copy of the united entry in your userspace: User:Scottmacstra/united. Go ahead and make the edit you think needs to happen and I'll help you with any issues that arise. - TheDaveRoss 12:27, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

The "united" example shows what I want to do with many other past participles that function as adjectives, but I still can't figure out how to ADD an adjective definition without automatically ERASING the original verb definition. Isn't there a simple way to do so that even a old academic type can understand?

Can you provide an example which needs to be be edited? I will show you the simple way to make the edit but it will be easier with an example. - TheDaveRoss 16:54, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

Another example could be the word "keyed", which has a number of meanings that are adjectival in nature, while none are recognized by Wiktionary - including when a typewriter or telegraph key has been depressed, an automobile or home supplied with a key, and an automobile vandalized by someone scratching it with a key. All three would yield usage as an adjective. ScottmacstraScottmacstra (talk) 16:43, 25 September 2018 (UTC)

Hi Scottmacstra, and welcome! I noticed this conversation and made a couple of edits to User:Scottmacstra/united which might be a visual example.

• In this edit I added a new sense to an existing part of speech section. It is simply adding a new line, a pound sign, and the new sense. I then added a summary of my edit, and clicked the 'Publish changes' button.
• In the next edit I added a new part of speech section. Notice I did not add the part of speech template (everything inside two curly braces is usually a template, like {{en-adj|-}}) - this is perfectly okay if you do not know all the arcana and cantrips of Wiktionary. Someone who does know them will come along and add the things you did not. - Amgine/ ^t·e 17:00, 25 September 2018 (UTC)

"do not have a user page"

User pages are optional, and are created by the users themselves. You didn't have one until now because you never created one. Equinox ◑ 20:20, 21 December 2018 (UTC)

It's difficult for me to understand why I have been ignored for over six months whenever I try to make a contribution, though it is apparent that I've been doing something wrong, due to not fully understanding what is right. I think I have a lot to contribute to Wiktionary, if I am permitted to do so. Is there any chance that I might be "reinstated" in the near future? If so, what must I do to achieve such reinstatement? Any help that anyone can offer will be greatly appreciated. I am easily one of the biggest users and fans of Wiktionary. Scott MacStravicScottmacstra (talk) 20:19, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

This is supposed to be a reference work and it follows some fairly strict rules about how things should be written. It is very boring to learn the rules but if you just pay attention to any feedback you get, and see how people are changing and correcting your entries, you will pick it up. We all did. Otherwise it would be meaningless chaos. — You just suggested on another page that you had suffered the "ignominy" of being blocked, or some such. You have never been blocked. (And if you had been, so what? We don't block people out of pure sadistic pleasure, but only when they are causing damage to our dictionary.) Contribute what you want, and try to listen and learn from what people tell you. Sound good? Equinox ◑ 03:47, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

Blocking

Your editing problems go far beyond adding adjectives to verb inflection pages (which could be debated). You should instantly be able to see why something like this is unacceptable. If you are unable to edit your entries to a minimum standard of formatting you will remain blocked. DTLHS (talk) 23:20, 24 December 2018 (UTC)