User talk:Preupellor
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What descendants are there for RC:Old Dutch/al? -- Sokkjō 00:18, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
- In unattested (attested in place names and compunds) the meaning temple/farmstead/house none, but in other attested variants it does have descendants. ONW al (I)
- Please add some derived terms then. Thanks. -- Sokkjō 18:13, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
Done - Preupellor (talk) 18:32, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
- Please add some derived terms then. Thanks. -- Sokkjō 18:13, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
Old Dutch attestations
[edit]Preupellor, just because a word is found as an element in a compound, ex. given name, place name, etc., doesn't make it attested. It has to be used as a functional word to be considered attested. Old Dutch *swīn is only attested in place names and the compound meriswīn. Also, please use {{rfd}} to delete entries, not {{d}}. -- Sokkjō 04:39, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
- It was attested in its accusative form in the Rhinelandic Rhyming Bible, and according to the people I asked on the discord about it, that be enough to not be considered a reconstruction. Preupellor (talk) 06:16, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
- The Rhinelandic Rhyming Bible also contains text that is not Old Dutch but rather Central Franconian Old High German and the EWN agrees[1] with the term not being attested. Do you know what section of the RRB svin is found? Also, which discord server are you referring to? I don't see that discussion on English Wiktionary. -- Sokkjō 06:40, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
- I don't have the text, so I don't know which section it is. My question can be found in the information desk of the discord server. I used the Old Dutch Dictionary, which does refer to svin aan Old Dutch. They and I could of course be wrong. Preupellor (talk) 09:04, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
- I'm looking at the ONW and I don't see where it cites the Rijmbijbel. Where do you see that? I see the discussion now -- it's about lemmatizing terms, not attestation per se. -- Sokkjō 10:01, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
- You have to check the box with 'citaten' in the upper left of the site and it will show all citates. At the end of the quote it says Mfr.Reimb. which is short for Mittelfränkische Reimbeibel. Preupellor (talk) 10:30, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
- Whoops, I was looking in the wrong section. It appears to say it's from fragment B, which is in OHG, not ODut. -- Sokkjō 10:39, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
- Okay. Thanks for noticing my error, I'll pay more attention next time. Preupellor (talk) 13:20, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
- It's a error on the part of the WDB, not you. -- Sokkjō 14:59, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
- Okay. Thanks for noticing my error, I'll pay more attention next time. Preupellor (talk) 13:20, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
- Whoops, I was looking in the wrong section. It appears to say it's from fragment B, which is in OHG, not ODut. -- Sokkjō 10:39, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
- You have to check the box with 'citaten' in the upper left of the site and it will show all citates. At the end of the quote it says Mfr.Reimb. which is short for Mittelfränkische Reimbeibel. Preupellor (talk) 10:30, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
- I'm looking at the ONW and I don't see where it cites the Rijmbijbel. Where do you see that? I see the discussion now -- it's about lemmatizing terms, not attestation per se. -- Sokkjō 10:01, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
- I don't have the text, so I don't know which section it is. My question can be found in the information desk of the discord server. I used the Old Dutch Dictionary, which does refer to svin aan Old Dutch. They and I could of course be wrong. Preupellor (talk) 09:04, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
- The Rhinelandic Rhyming Bible also contains text that is not Old Dutch but rather Central Franconian Old High German and the EWN agrees[1] with the term not being attested. Do you know what section of the RRB svin is found? Also, which discord server are you referring to? I don't see that discussion on English Wiktionary. -- Sokkjō 06:40, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
References
[edit]- ^ Philippa, Marlies, Debrabandere, Frans, Quak, Arend, Schoonheim, Tanneke, van der Sijs, Nicoline (2003–2009) “zwijn”, in Etymologisch woordenboek van het Nederlands[1] (in Dutch), Amsterdam: Amsterdam University Press