User talk:JapanYoshi

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Blocked by User:-sche

User:-sche has blocked me for requesting that the “q***r theory” meaning of “q***r” be added to the Wiktionary article for “q***r”. This came up in a reply to this month’s Beer Parlour about how my voice recordings were mistaken for TTS, just as it was about to transition into a productive discussion on what makes (or should make) for a good pronunciation demonstration on Wiktionary.

It is important to note that “q***r theory” is not the same thing as “q***r studies”. I, as a bisexual transgender woman, oppose the use of the Q-slur, as it still has a powerful negative association with anti-LGBT violence and vitriol, and its literal meaning of “odd” goes counter to the goal of LGBT normalization. I am also involuntarily triggered by its use, which is why I have censored it here.

In the talk page, I pointed out that “q***r” can also mean “intentionally violating all societal norms of decency in order to try to loosen and remove them; pedophilia/bestiality advocate”, which is how q***r theorists define the word.

For example, Judith Butler wrote in Critically Q***r that q***r theory is a site of “collective contestation”, and the word should perpetually be “q***red from a prior usage and in the direction of urgent and expanding political purposes”.

Q***r theory is a postmodernist school of thought that argues not only that all morals are relative, but that everyone should pursue societal progress by removing more and more standards of decency surrounding sexuality.

User:AG202 has argued that “Judith Butler has never argued for [pedophilia or incest], nor is she their advocate, and anyone who's seriously taken a look at q***r theory would know that those topics are not a part of it.” In fact, Judith Butler dedicated a section of her book Undoing Gender to defending adult-child incest/pedophilia, arguing that some forms of parental child rape are only bad because of the social stigma of it, instead of the fact that the parent would be abusing their own poor, defenceless, underdeveloped, innocent child.

Just as User:Denazz and User:Andrew Sheedy were saying, I was asking a question in good faith about a sense of a word that I found to be missing. I do understand that it seems blasphemous to people self-identifying as q***r, but I do not think a dictionary should make the editorial choice to lie about any word by omission. [original message posted on 05:38, 16 September 2024 (UTC)]

Edit to address the argument that “it’s only Judith Butler”

Judith Butler is hardly the only q***r theorist that defended or advocated for pedophilia. As a refresher, she is the prominent queer theorist behind Gender Trouble. She also said that some forms of parent-child incest are only bad because of the social stigma brought by it.

Michel Foucault is known as one of the founders of q***r theory, despite the name “q***r theory” only arising after him. He wrote about homosexuality on equal footing with pedophilia in History of Sexuality. He also signed a petition for the French government to abolish age of consent laws, with co-signers like Jean-Paul Sartre, the playwright of No Exit”.

Pat Califia, a “titan” of q***r theory and author of Public Sex consistently advocated for pedophile rights, including that very document where he glorifies so-called “cross-generational sex”. He admitted in No Minor Issues: Age of Consent, Child Pornography, and Cross-generational Relationships that he wanted all age of consent laws gone. (Granted, I’ve also heard that he has walked back some of his pedophilia advocacy after becoming a dad, but I’m appalled that it took that much for him to realize that kids should not be raped.)

Gayle Rubin, the author of Talking Sex, commonly called “the founding document of q***r theory”, said that “Boylovers” are so stigmatized that they can’t find anyone to “defend their civil liberties, let alone their erotic orientation”. In case you missed it, pedophilia is not an erotic orientation, nor like a preference for spicy food.

As you can see, all four of these queer theorist writers, all very prominent, tried to justify sexualizing, and sometimes raping, children! This is no mistake. Q***r theory is postmodernist, which means it doesn’t believe in objective reality or morality. It defines “q***r” as any behavior considered taboo by society, and states inaccurately that homosexuality is exactly as immoral as pedophilia.

The times of NAMBLA at Pride are over, as we have collectively realized that associating pedophilia with LGBT rights was decidedly not the way to go. When will this happen to the weasel word that NAMBLA use to claim that their “civil liberties” are just as “oppressed” as those of LGBT people?

The q***r community has done little to divest themselves from this pedophilic lineage. In fact, anyone who questions their actions and thoughts is blanket-statement labeled as a “bigot” and chased away, no matter whether that dissenter is LGBT, or whether the actions and thoughts that are dissented to appear pedophilic, perverted, anti-LGBT, or all of the above. The ban—against me, a bisexual trans woman—for daring to merely request to document such dissent—is just another example of this hegemony in action. (Content partially reused from my own answer on a question on Quora.) JapanYoshi (talk) 02:15, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

I’ve had the authority to edit anything but this Talk page revoked. How do I notify @-sche, @AG202, @Andrew Sheedy, @Benwing2, @Denazz, @Fytcha, @Ioaxxere, @Vininn126, or anyone else who can ask for unban on my behalf? JapanYoshi (talk) 00:20, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

Your pings still work. I'm not sure how to request an unblock. I think there's a formal process though, so you might want to look that up. @-sche, any chance you'd give this user another shot and shorten the block to, say, a week? Andrew Sheedy (talk) 05:23, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

@JapanYoshi Hi. To formally request an unblock, use the {{unblock}} template on this talk page, with your reason(s) for requesting the unblock. This will initiate a discussion about unblocking. Also as mentioned by User:Andrew Sheedy, you can ping anyone and they will receive the ping (as I did). Benwing2 (talk) 09:03, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

Thank you, I’ve added that template below! JapanYoshi (talk) 09:23, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

Unblock request

This blocked user is asking that their block be reviewed:

JapanYoshi (block log • active blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • abuse filter log • user creation log • change block settings • unblock)

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Request reason:

As explained in more detail above, All I did was request that a missing definition, which happened to be upsetting to some, be added. The definition, should it be added, would be useful in explaining why some LGBT people oppose the use of the word “q***r”.
The request has been amended with further arguments on September 22.

JapanYoshi (talk) 09:19, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

Declined, for the reasons given on the Beer Parlour thread. Theknightwho (talk) 01:32, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

The reasons given on the Beer Parlour thread have been rebutted already here. JapanYoshi (talk) 05:18, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

Updated unblock request

This blocked user is asking that their block be reviewed:

JapanYoshi (block log • active blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • abuse filter log • user creation log • change block settings • unblock)

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Request reason:

This unblock request has been updated with further arguments on September 22, which has not been addressed. As explained in more detail above, All I did was request the addition of a missing historical/academic definition, which happened to be upsetting to some. The definition, should it be added, would be useful in explaining why some LGBT people, including myself, oppose the use of the word “q***r”.

JapanYoshi (talk) 02:56, 20 November 2024 (UTC)