User:Sitaron

TODO: create a "reverse" template of km-redup showing terms entering compounds without their meaning. Draft of it as Template:km-component.

Basically, it would address the following cases :

the echo syllables of reduplications who happen to be a real word (eg. ខិកខំ)
(or even the echo syllables of reduplications who otherwise do not exist)
words in compounds who do not carry in their meaning (eg. កក់ក្ដៅ)
words in compound who don't have a meaning outside that compound, or can be traced back to a meaning but no longer used alone (eg. synonymous compound ឈឺថ្កាត់ sick+sick=sick, hypernym compound ទឹករងៃ (tɨk rɔngɨy) water+pus=pus).

These terms can be shown in the component's definition as:

Or, if want to show that the meaning is attached to the compound as a whole, not the individual component:

Case of words used figuratively/derivatively in a compound (eg. ពពែភ្នែក, or like "potato eye" in English), usually the first term of a compound.

Two sub-cases:

the word can be used outside of the compound and retain the figurative/derivative meaning (ex: storm eye - the eye approaches).

--> We can write the new sense as an additional sense like this:

The issue with that presentation is we don't have a link to the full term if we ever want to make a separate entry.

the word cannot be used outside of the phrase (love handle - I hold you by the handle??).

--> We're dealing with a separate lemma: mention the compound in the "Derived terms" section of the term, and link to their own page as a lemma.

Case of hypernym/hyponym compound (the word is the second term of the compound). Can be written like this:

Question:

Why did Headley present these compounds as a "IN" sub-senses of the term, rather than a separate compound entry?

To exemplify this inconsistency, compare H77 and H97 in the treatment of ខ្មាំងមិល:

ខ្មាំង /kmaŋ/

ខ្មាំងមិល /kmaŋ mil/

Until completion of the new template, taking a note here of the occurrences of such compounds I came across for later cleanup.

កក់ (kɑk) in កក់ក្ដៅ (kɑk kdaw)
ខិត (khət) in ខិតខំ (khət khɑm)
ខិត (khət) in ខិតខាត់ (khətkhat)
ខៀន (khiən) in ក្ដារខៀន (kdaa khiən)(khien does have a meaning, but from Thai, doesn't exist in the language otherwise)

ខះ (khah) in ខះខម (khăhkhâm)
ធាន (thiən) in ធនធាន (thŭən thiən). Maybe a reduplicative synonymous compound ?
ប្រដាប់ប្រដា (prɑdap prɑdaa)
ពួកម៉ាក (puəkmaak-)
ផ្លេកបន្ទោរ (phleek bɑntou)

កួចចិត្ត (kuəccəttɑɑ) - figurative
ខ្មាំង (khmang) in ខ្មាំងមិល (khmangmɨl). Note មិល (mɨl) is an empty term.
ងាយ (ngiəy) easily > lightly, scornfully, condescendingly, in មើលងាយ (məəl ngiəy),មាក់ងាយ (mĕəkngiəy),ងាយមាត់ (ngiəymŏət), at least no longer productive.
ចុងជួន (congcuən) - is it separable?

Happens a lot for types of animals, plants,..