Talk:I need shampoo

"I need some shampoo" is probably a more likely utterance. Equinox ◑ 18:18, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Does it even matter at this point? The Phrasebook is a joke. If you actually care, take it to WT:RFM. --Μετάknowledge^{discuss/deeds} 18:25, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

RFD discussion: October 2016–March 2017

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I need shampoo

Common household object, covered by I need .... (According to Talk:I need shampoo, it should be "I need some shampoo" if kept.) --Daniel Carrero (talk) 17:10, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

Don't really see the point of RFDing individual phrasebookisms. Equinox ◑ 00:30, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

Why not? I believe we don't need "I need shampoo" as a separate entry, so apparently I have 3 options: RFDing it, speedying it or leaving it alone. The first option seemed to make more sense to me. Or maybe speedying. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 00:40, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

If the consensus says that it's covered by "I need..." then we should just delete all "I need X" outright. Equinox ◑ 00:42, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

Is that the consensus? I don't think that was ever decided by discussion... I checked Special:WhatLinksHere/I_need_... and just found some individual RFDs that failed. But at least I think that nobody cares for most "I need" entries, which does sound consensus-ish. I think I'll speedy them all (I need a guide, I need toothpaste, I need gas, etc.) and leave only I need ... and I need a drink (which passed RFD recently). --Daniel Carrero (talk) 00:54, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

It seems to me that the phrasebook ("I don't speak French, but I'm in France and I want to be able to say something") is the one possible good case for having SoP entries. Someone who's stuck with a flat tyre, or no toothpaste, will not thank us for having a translation of "I need..." and ellipsis. Equinox ◑ 01:52, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

I thought that your previous message [the one from 00:42, 19 October 2016 (UTC)] implied that you agreed with the idea of deleting all "I need X" outright. And your comment in Talk:I need a compass suggests you see some utility in having I need .... But now it seems that you would prefer them to be kept? Me, I think I need ... is pretty useless because it's still an incomplete sentence that requires a noun to be added, so it's not incredibly more helpful than just I + need. But I also don't think that we need a separate entry for "I need" + every possible object, so the I need ... is the best option we have for now, in my opinion. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 02:31, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

Just delete the entire stupid phrasebook and start again with useful entries. SemperBlotto (talk) 06:30, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

In a Phrasebook: namespace. - TheDaveRoss 12:48, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

Delete. Renard Migrant (talk) 12:57, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

The phrasebook is great, IMO. Just some entries are garbage. Admittedly, I created I need shampoo in 2010. Now I'd like to delete that entry. Here is not the place to discuss having a "Phrasebook:" namespace, and other policies that affect all PB entries. I think we should be answering the question: As long as we have some phrasebook entries, would this one qualify? I think not. I'm still going to speedy all the aforementioned entries if it's OK with everyone. If there's any doubt or controversy, I can keep RFDing one by one, if that's better. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 15:52, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

I don't need this entry. I'm bald. --Hekaheka (talk) 11:44, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

Haha! I'm far from being bald, but I see no value in keeping this entry. DonnanZ (talk) 14:04, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

WP:BEBALD. Equinox ◑ 10:45, 22 October 2016 (UTC)

• Delete. google books:"I need shampoo" phrasebook does not find anything. By contrast, google books:"I'm cold" phrasebook finds multiple phraseboks. Thus, for the phrasebook, let's use something like the lemming heuristic based on the English phrases; for non-English phrases, let's look for its English translation to take advantage of how many phrasebooks English has. SOP phrasebook entries in CFI: WT:CFI#Idiomaticity, "Phrasebook entries are very common expressions ...". --Dan Polansky (talk) 14:15, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
• RFD deleted on 23 January 2017 by Metaknowledge. --Dan Polansky (talk) 08:31, 4 March 2017 (UTC)

I need Shampoo

I need Shampoo. She's cute. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 08:43, 26 March 2017 (UTC)