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Chinese. 燂 rfd-senses: "to simmer with low heat", "to simmer slowly". 醃燂鮮/腌燂鲜 is the name of a common dish derived from these two verb senses, the main entry for which has now been moved to 醃篤鮮.
The reading for the verb in question had been wrong on all three pages, and the character selection seems to be unconventional at best.
All of these three pages seem to have been created with the Shanghainese verb 篤 7toq "to simmer" in mind. However, the unconventional character choice 燂 also meant that all three pages had mistakenly represented the reading of said verb as 6doe (the expected reading of the character) instead of 7toq.
I struggle to find any resources that write either the Shanghainese verb or the name of the related dish with the character 燂. With this being the case the verb senses should be deleted from 燂 and maybe moved to some more commonly used glyph such as 篤. 醃燂鮮 and 腌燂鲜 should probably similarly be deleted due to their low attestability, now that the main entry has been moved instead to 醃篤鮮. — Musetta6729 (talk) 12:25, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. — 義順 (talk) 16:28, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
- I think this is an RFV issue. — justin(r)leung { (t...) | c=› } 23:20, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
- Moved to RFV. — justin(r)leung { (t...) | c=› } 15:22, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
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Chinese. RfV senses: (Shanghainese) "to simmer with low heat"; "to simmer slowly". The word exists, but generally read 7toq, and written as something more akin to 篤 instead.
Also 醃燂鮮 and 腌燂鲜 need to be verified. All three entries were formerly submitted to Requests for Deletion for the same reason.
The compound 醃燂鮮, namely, has very few hits on google, with the first noteworthy page being an archive [1] of an internet source on wu-chinese.org.
This reads: "<toq> 燂：用小火慢慢煮。如：“腌燂鲜”（一种有名的汤）。"
It seems to me that whoever created these entries followed this source and incorrectly attributed the character 燂 to this sense, a character neither common nor plausibly linked etymologically to the actual entry. — Musetta6729 (talk) 10:09, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
- RFV failed. — justin(r)leung { (t...) | c=› } 15:24, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
Moved from RFD. — justin(r)leung { (t...) | c=› } 15:19, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
- RFV failed. — justin(r)leung { (t...) | c=› } 22:07, 29 October 2024 (UTC)