Talk:為止

RFM discussion: December 2019

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為止, 到……為止

Can 為止 be used without 到? —Suzukaze-c◇◇ 07:21, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

@Suzukaze-c: In modern varieties, basically no, but there are some fossilized constructions like 迄今為止. — justin(r)leung _{{ (t...) | c=› }} 08:40, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

Hm, then I suppose having both are fine (unless someone thinks 到……為止 should go). 為止 might benefit from usage notes. —Suzukaze-c◇◇ 09:51, 31 December 2019 (UTC)