Talk:խիճ
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Latest comment: 2 years ago by კვარია
@Vahagn_Petrosyan: Any expansion on Armenian side of things? We have this:
- Georgian: ხვინჭი, ხუნჭი (xvinč̣i, xunč̣i, “pebble, grit”)
- → Mingrelian: ხვინჭვი (xvinč̣vi, “pebble, gravel”)
- Mingrelian: ხინჭკი (xinč̣ḳi, “sharp pebble; small broken fragment”), ხვინჭკი, ხვინჭკა (xvinč̣ḳi, xvinč̣ḳa, “gravel”), ხვინჭკალი (xvinč̣ḳali, “small-toothed ← *pebble-toothed”), ხინჭკოლუა (xinč̣ḳolua, “to crush, pound”)
For Mingrelian seemingly regular -ჭკ- (-č̣ḳ-) (← -*ჭ- (-*č̣-)), possibly both derivable from Proto-Georgian-Zan *xunč̣-. Stranger one is ხიჭი (xič̣i).
Compare which I think is incorrect:
- Fähnrich, Heinz (2007) Kartwelisches Etymologisches Wörterbuch [Kartvelian Etymological Dictionary] (Handbuch der Orientalistik; VIII.18) (in German), Leiden, Boston: Brill, page 687
კვარია (talk) 14:51, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
- Oh, turns out he did reconstruct this. But surely he must be joking to separate these two roots: Fähnrich, Heinz (2007) Kartwelisches Etymologisches Wörterbuch [Kartvelian Etymological Dictionary] (Handbuch der Orientalistik; VIII.18) (in German), Leiden, Boston: Brill, page 688 კვარია (talk) 18:47, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
- @კვარია: the Armenian looks like a borrowing, based on the shape either Iranian or Kartvelian. If you like the Georgian–Zan reconstruction, create it. We can then derive the Armenian from Georgian–Zan. Vahag (talk) 21:03, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
- I won't because Fahnrich's reconstruction doesn't take into account a lot of words and hence incorrect. My idea is *xunč̣- but I don't want to create a page without sources კვარია (talk) 21:07, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
- @კვარია: the Armenian looks like a borrowing, based on the shape either Iranian or Kartvelian. If you like the Georgian–Zan reconstruction, create it. We can then derive the Armenian from Georgian–Zan. Vahag (talk) 21:03, 22 May 2022 (UTC)