Talk:гӏаж

Ingush къа̄ж

@Vahagn Petrosyan: To be honest, the Ingush form that you added does not quite confirm the very influence of Ossetian, at first glance, but if you look at it, it seems to confirm it. It looks complicated, but I'll try to explain. ɶLerman (talk) 18:37, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

Ok. North Caucasus is not my subject, I simply followed Abaev. Vahag (talk) 18:42, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

@Vahagn Petrosyan: I'm already confused myself HAHAH ɶLerman (talk) 18:48, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

Follow the links I added to хъӕз (qæz) and хъаз (qaz) and listen to the audios. Ossetian з sounds like ж. Vahag (talk) 18:58, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

@Vahagn Petrosyan: Yes, I know about the peculiarities of Ossetian pronunciation. I'm more worried about: 1) why did the Ossetian /ɐ/ gave a long vowel in the Ingush form “feather grass”? After all, it appears from the Old Iranian short vowel *a, not the long one *ā. Also “grass, greenery, spring vegetation, spring bloom; sedge” is in Chechen and it is without a long vowel. 2) if the Ingush form “goose” is a loan from the Turkic, which was influenced by Ossetian, as a result of which we have Ingush /ʁaːʒ/, then if we assume borrowing from the Ossetian “feather grass” to the Ingush, then why does it turn out to be /qʼaːʤ/ and not */qʼa(ː)ʒ/? Look at /ʤ/ ~ /ʒ/. I assume that this is the influence of a verb of similar semantics or a noun of similar form and semantics, see e.g. Kodzoev 2010: 661. I seem to have found the answer, but I need to articulate my thoughts intelligently. ɶLerman (talk) 19:44, 6 December 2024 (UTC)