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Latest comment: 14 days ago by Rex Aurorum in topic Closed syllables

Issues

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Firstly, the phonemic transcription of diphthongs should be always written with vowels (e.g. /ai/, /au/), not with glides (e.g. /aj/, /aw/). Although diphthongs are written out with glides in several languages such as Sundanese, Madurese, Lampung, I'm sure that many Indonesians, including myself, are unable to pronounce such vowel–glide sequences. Then, Indonesian allow heterorganic nasals normally, thus, tanpa /ˈtanpa/ is never pronounced as [ˈtampa], except possibly in fast speech, and it would (almost) merge with tampah ['tampah]. The word provinsi /prɔˈvinsi/ is also never pronounced as [prɔˈfiɲsi] (note awkward cluster), but always as [prɔˈfinsi]. If homorganization exists, then it is exceptional (bank should be re-transcribed as something like bangk or bang). I have already considered these issues since this module was first created.  DDG9912   15:06, 3 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

@DDG9912 Just fixed the handling of phonemic diphthongs. It may be debatable, but handling those with vowel plus either /i/ or /u/, or glides (/j/ and /w/) is both valid. Also removed the nasal sandhi code. TagaSanPedroAko (talk) 05:53, 10 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
Okay. The issues of this template/module are now resolved.  DDG9912   06:54, 10 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Closed syllables

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CMIIW. 'O' in closed syllables pronounced as /ɔ/. Example: proktor /prɔk̚tɔr/

It's similar to 'u' pronunciation in closed syllables as /ʊ/ ―Rex AurōrumDisputātiō 05:00, 19 November 2024 (UTC)Reply