Category talk:Terms spelled with emoji by language

RFM discussion: November 2023–February 2024

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"Cat:LANG terms spelled with INDIVIDUAL EMOJI": merge all to "Cat:LANG terms spelled with emoji"

Most of these categories, like Cat:English terms spelled with 👄, will only ever contain one or two entries each. Better to merge them all into a single Cat:English terms spelled with emoji cat. This, that and the other (talk) 02:40, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

@This, that and the other Support. Also it's not clear such categories will be very useful even if they contain more than a handful of entries. Similar reasoning led to CAT:English terms spelled with numbers etc. instead of categories for individual numbers. Benwing2 (talk) 06:57, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

Support Fay Freak (talk) 17:00, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

Support per nom, at least in general. If some particular emoji does have a large number of uses, I am happy to discuss either splitting it off or just dual-categorizing it also into a specific subcategory for itself. - -sche (discuss) 18:05, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

Support — Sgconlaw (talk) 20:22, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

Support - though this may be a little tricky to implement, since what counts as an emoji is not always straightforward. Theknightwho (talk) 13:57, 7 November 2023 (UTC)

@Theknightwho Hmmm, is there no emoji-specific block or Unicode property? Benwing2 (talk) 08:16, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

@Benwing2 There’s a property, but quite a few characters can be either emoji or plain characters, and the default display form depends on factors like viewing device, variation selectors etc. Theknightwho (talk) 12:45, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

Can you give an example of a character than can be either an emoji or a plain character? I would think any of the "ASCII art" faces drawn with plain characters like :-) etc. are emoticons rather than emojis. —Mahāgaja · talk 13:23, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

@Mahagaja One example is ↗︎. It tends to default to plain on desktop and emoji on mobile. We ran into this issue because it's used in IPA, so the template automatically adds a variation selector to force the plain display. Theknightwho (talk) 14:14, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

Other examples are ♉, ♀, ♂ (from Wiktionary:Grease pit/2022/August#Preventing_emoji_display_in_titles). - -sche (discuss) 16:49, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

The full list of single-Unicode-codepoint emoji here. Not all of these characters are to be treated as emoji by us though. We could just make a crude filter that treats anything in the Unicode range U+1F300 to U+1FAFF as an emoji, plus a list of others that need including, like U+2693 ⚓ (for w⚓). This, that and the other (talk) 00:44, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

Support J3133 (talk) 11:32, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

Support Almost did this manually before J3133 pointed me here. Worth asking if single emoji entries would be included in such a category. –Vuccala (talk) 22:58, 3 December 2023 (UTC)

 Done. Benwing2 (talk) 02:56, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

@Vuccala BTW this does not include single emoji entries, nor entries in languages that don't have a list of "standard characters" in the corresponding language data module. Benwing2 (talk) 02:58, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

@Benwing2 Cat:English terms spelled with emoji contains only 2 right now. Do all the others (see end of list here) have to be added manually or something? And will the same be done for translingual terms with emoji? Vuccᴀʟᴀ (talk) 03:59, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

@Vuccala This issue will correct itself automatically over time, as pages get regenerated. (You can speed it up by null-saving the pages in question, if you want.) Benwing2 (talk) 04:09, 7 February 2024 (UTC)