Wiktionary:Votes/2016-08/Using template l to link to English entries from English entries
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Using template l to link to English entries from English entries
- Voting on: For English sections, allowing automatic and semi-automatic edits to ensure that all links in Synonyms, Antonyms, Hyponyms, Hypernyms, Related terms, and Derived terms are linked using
{{l}}
template rather than plain wikilinks.Thus, instead of
* [[bakery]]
there will be
* {{l|en|bakery}}
- Rationale: See Wiktionary talk:Votes/2016-08/Using template l to link to English entries from English entries#Rationale. The voters only vote on the proposed action, not on the rationale.
- Vote starts: 00:00, 13 August 2016 (UTC)
- Vote ends: 23:59, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
- Vote created: Dan Polansky (talk) 10:02, 6 August 2016 (UTC)
- Discussion:
Support
- Support --Daniel Carrero (talk) 21:16, 14 August 2016 (UTC)
- Support again. —CodeCat 22:28, 14 August 2016 (UTC)
- Support, but as Equinox says, it would be better to have language headers automatically detected somehow. Andrew Sheedy (talk) 01:31, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
- Support "Harder to read the markup" simply doesn't fly for me. We're here to produce a dictionary that works for all our consumers, be they humans, other websites, bots, scripts run by researchers or analysts, etc. The convenience of us editors should be a secondary priority, and in any case, this is only a minor change (five additional keystrokes) for those who don't already do it. This, that and the other (talk) 07:12, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
- "We're here to produce..." means we need not to be hindered in producing. I have averaged more than 100 edits per day (mostly creations) for most of a decade and I can tell you those five keystrokes add up: and it takes longer to read the markup too when it's full of templates. Equinox ◑ 07:32, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
- You can still enter plain wikilinks, this vote won't stop you from doing that. This vote just allows bots to fix it up after. --WikiTiki89 18:46, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
- "We're here to produce..." means we need not to be hindered in producing. I have averaged more than 100 edits per day (mostly creations) for most of a decade and I can tell you those five keystrokes add up: and it takes longer to read the markup too when it's full of templates. Equinox ◑ 07:32, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
- Support - DonnanZ (talk) 11:39, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
- Support. I think it is important to keep markup readable. However, I think that
{{l}}
is perfectly readable when used in lists like this (as opposed to its use in running text). --WikiTiki89 18:46, 15 August 2016 (UTC) - Support -Xbony2 (talk) 20:19, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
- Support Mulder1982 (talk) 21:43, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
- Support AtalinaDove (talk) 13:45, 31 August 2016 (UTC)
- Support --Mistrz (talk) 15:16, 20 September 2016 (UTC)
- User:Mistrz has 79 edits between 9 July 2013 and 22 April 2016. The user is eligible to vote, per WT:Voting policy. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 22:30, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
- Support – Jberkel (talk) 20:41, 28 September 2016 (UTC)
- Support —Enosh (talk) 08:46, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
- Support — Also, I find vertical lists with each item beginning
* {{l|en|
just as easy to read as those with each item beginning* [[
. — I.S.M.E.T.A. 20:10, 9 October 2016 (UTC) - Support DTLHS (talk) 20:20, 9 October 2016 (UTC)
- Support —JohnC5 03:05, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
Oppose
- Oppose Harder to read and write the markup (and the visual editor isn't an acceptable alternative for me either). I wish we could detect language headers and set language links accordingly. Equinox ◑ 22:31, 14 August 2016 (UTC)
- This vote does not mandate that you write it that way, only that a bot can convert your additions to that format. --WikiTiki89 13:46, 23 September 2016 (UTC)
- Oppose Totally pointless AFAIAC. Also per vote creator's comment elsewhere. --Droigheann (talk) 23:05, 14 August 2016 (UTC)
- Oppose, since proper redirection can be done using JS.--Dixtosa (talk) 11:35, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
- Oppose per Equinox, myself as referenced by Droigheann, and Dixtosa. In another vote, I pointed out that the linking could be done by either Javascript or MediaWiki plugin, with no need to make the markup harder to read. I also pointed out that tabbed browsing, which was voted to be enabled via a passing vote but is not enabled yet, already has the function using Javascript. --Dan Polansky (talk) 09:59, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
- Oppose per what I wrote at Wiktionary:Votes/2016-07/Using template l to link to English entries.—msh210℠ (talk) 18:40, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
- Oppose DCDuring TALK 22:19, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
- Oppose per above. — ObſequiousNewt — Geſpꝛaͤch — Beÿtraͤge 03:41, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
Abstain
Decision
Passes: 15-7-0 (68.19%-31.81%) --Daniel Carrero (talk) 12:45, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
- Updated WT:TASK. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 12:48, 14 October 2016 (UTC)