User talk:Pvanp7

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Enjoy your stay at Wiktionary! -saph (user—talk—contribs) 12:46, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

Please note also that IPA properly uses //, not \\. -saph (user—talk—contribs) 12:49, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

Okay.Pvanp7 (talk) 22:19, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

Placement of tables

I've had to revert every single one of your edits that add massive tables to the exact wrong place in an entry, i.e. between the headword line and the definitions. These tables must (a) be placed below the definitions and (b) be made collapsible. — SURJECTION ^{/ T / C / L /} 11:00, 10 February 2025 (UTC)

OK, apparently the tables were already collapsible, but simply expanded by default. In any case, these tables absolutely do not belong above the definitions. They should probably be under Coordinate terms. — SURJECTION ^{/ T / C / L /} 11:02, 10 February 2025 (UTC)

So if I add them to co-ordinate terms & make them collapsed by default, then they can stay? Pvanp7 (talk) 11:21, 10 February 2025 (UTC)

Also, does 'co-ordinate terms' just mean 'related terms'? Pvanp7 (talk) 11:28, 10 February 2025 (UTC)

"Related terms" is for etymologically related terms. "Coordinate terms" is for semantically related terms. Yes, if they're added to the correct place and ideally collapsed by default, they are OK. — SURJECTION ^{/ T / C / L /} 11:42, 10 February 2025 (UTC)

Thanks! Pvanp7 (talk) 11:45, 10 February 2025 (UTC)

I would add that adding raw, hard-coded tables to a multitude of entries creates a maintenance nightmare – any change to the template now has to be manually done in umpteen different places. Please create a template for this purpose, such as {{en-pronominal adverbs}}, and transclude it in the entries. I'd be very grateful if you can go back and do this - otherwise someone else is going to have to clean up after you. Thanks. This, that and the other (talk) 02:13, 14 February 2025 (UTC)

It will be very difficult for me to create a template, but I can work on it. Don't expect much for the next few weeks though, since I don't know anything about programming. I'll probably do some maintenance on the existing tables between then. Thanks. Pvanp7 (talk) 02:19, 14 February 2025 (UTC)

@Pvanp7 creating a template that is "constant" (doesn't vary from one entry to the next) is actually quite easy - you simply copy the table into the template Template:en-pronominal adverbs and then replace the table in individual entries with the code

{{en-pronominal adverbs}}

That's it. No programming knowledge is required.

In any event, please don't feel under time pressure. Thanks for your contributions so far. This, that and the other (talk) 02:44, 14 February 2025 (UTC)

Wow! That's significantly simpler than what @Benwing2 told me about creating category pages! I'm glad tables are simpler! Thank you so much!!! Pvanp7 (talk) 04:56, 14 February 2025 (UTC)