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Please pay special attention to Entry layout explained: you're unintentionally causing some real problems because you're misunderstanding how things work.
In the case of tastannen, there's the additional problem of our recognizing three different Frisian languages: West Frisian (language code fy), which is probably what you had in mind, North Frisian (language code frr) and East Frisian/Saterland Frisian (language code stq). Thanks! Chuck Entz (talk) 06:35, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
You don't see anything wrong with censoring someone else's comment on a talk page with with the edit comment ""We don't tell people what to say"? Chuck Entz (talk) 13:50, 2 June 2016 (UTC)
- User:Chuck Entz, absolutely not. First of all, the post is 8 years old. I removed it for being completely unhelpful and taking up unnecessary space as well as being instructional (which we are not). Wikipedian talk page guidelines clearly state that posts unrelated to improving the page can be removed. "the correct term and only universally accepted" is no way to engage. Prinsgezinde (talk) 14:40, 2 June 2016 (UTC)
hosselen
[edit]Hi ! I find most etymological dictionaries trace hosselen, from English hustle, via Surinamese Dutch dialect Leasnam (talk) 19:54, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
- Leasnam: It's possible that the Dutch "husselen" came from English "hustling", while "hosselen" came from "husselen" (or it may just be an alternate spelling - this is somewhat unclear). My problem was with it stating metathesis since the t is silent. I got it from Merriam-Webster, which gives: "Dutch husselen to shake, from Middle Dutch hutselen, frequentative of hutsen"[1]
- Hustle is first attested in English in 1684, at which point I am not so sure the t was already silent. From when is husselen attested? Since as far as I know, hutselen dominates early modern Dutch. In any case, hustle most certainly does not derive from hosselen, indeed etymological dictionaries unanimously seem to think the reverse. — Kleio (t · c) 20:38, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
- Kleio: INL gives "husselen" only as a recent term, while etymologiebank.nl simply equates it with "hutselen". We may be onto something here. What's clear is that all originally derive from "hutselen" and thereby that "hutsen", and the ts > ss likely came through English. Prinsgezinde (talk) 20:58, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
- Correction: Just found a source from 1793 that mentions it. Prinsgezinde (talk) 21:10, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
- Hustle is first attested in English in 1684, at which point I am not so sure the t was already silent. From when is husselen attested? Since as far as I know, hutselen dominates early modern Dutch. In any case, hustle most certainly does not derive from hosselen, indeed etymological dictionaries unanimously seem to think the reverse. — Kleio (t · c) 20:38, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
ie
[edit]Kind request,
If you add words that were already going obsolete in the 16th century like "ie" in the sense of ever, could you at least tag them as obsolete or so? We do live in 2018, you know. Jcwf (talk) 04:21, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
- Yeah that's fine. Prinsgezinde (talk) 17:07, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
I see you "focusing on Germanic etymology". Good luck with that. But I have to kindly ask you to stay away from German dialects please. Editing away such a regular and obvious etymology with the comment "no way that's the case" just makes it clear that you're not in the least qualified. I mean it happens, you go wrong. No big deal. But now that I've told you, please don't do it again. Best regards. 2.202.159.84 14:15, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
- Bruh, that was 3 years ago. Looking back I have no idea why I did that and it was an unhelpful and strange contribution, but if you want to teach something to the person who made that edit you're a bit late. Prinsgezinde (talk) 13:54, 26 March 2020 (UTC)