User talk:Luceatlux

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Enjoy your stay at Wiktionary! --Lo Ximiendo (talk) 16:52, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

Your training as a Wiktionarian

As Stephen G. Brown suggested at Conrad.Irwin's talk page, you can find redlink words by searching Dhivehi translations. Feel free to take your time creating a few articles from that search list. Then we can edit your entries so you can see the changes we make. Then you'll understand how some things are managed around here. --Lo Ximiendo (talk) 17:55, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

Dhivehi

This is what the code for a basic noun with etymology should look like. Note the ==Dhivehi== and ===Etymology=== headers come before the noun. Mglovesfun (talk) 23:28, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

{{dv-noun}}, {{dv-verb}}, {{dv-adj}}, {{dv-con}} etc.

Before we could make templates like these, I think we may have to take considerations as to how we display the transliteration, plural form (nouns, but also adjectives?), indefinite form (same here), sentence ending form, etc. Does Dhivehi use postpositions? --Lo Ximiendo (talk) 16:25, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Conversation from facebook. We'll discuss Dhivehi here from now on. :)

@Luceatlux: what about the definition in Dhivehi?

for example take this word "ha" (ހަ) this word represents the word "six" which is (ހައެއް).

We use "ha" like so... "hagondi" means "6 chair"

it's not "hae' gondi"

nor is it 2 seperate words...

@Lo Ximiendo: Are we talking about plural forms of Dhivehi numbers?

@Luceatlux: nope. not specifically that

@Lo Ximiendo: six chairs? For hagondi?

@Luceatlux: for example 2 is (ދެއެއް) "dee'" but we drop the glottal stop at the end and we join the 2 words..

dhegondi (dhe 2 gondi chair)

when telling the amount of chairs we do not need to pluralize it in Dhivehi... it's assumed that if I say "7 chair" it's plural...

@Lo Ximiendo: How about an unspecified amount?

@Luceatlux: thats when we use plurals..

Gondie' = a chair (ގޮނޑިއެއް)

Gondithake' = chairs (ގޮނޑިތަކެއް)

-- Luceatlux (talk) 16:46, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

In case you're curious about {{dv-con}}, it's for Category:Dhivehi conjunctions. --Lo Ximiendo (talk) 16:51, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

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What about the meaning of the word in divehi?

For example take this word (ރަށްމެދުކުދިން) ra'medhukudhin: Literal meaning (which is useless for Wiktionary) is Island/Village-Center-Children

It's actual meaning is "Bastard Children" or (ބަފާ ނުކަށަވަރުކުދިން) Children who's paternity is unsure.

do we only add the English meaning? --Luceatlux (talk) 18:34, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Yes. Literal meanings and synonyms are okay. --Lo Ximiendo (talk) 18:48, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

what about the meaning in dhivehi? some words need an explanation.. like rannamaari which is a mythical monster --Luceatlux (talk) 19:09, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

In the index, you don't have to place a meaning like that, but you can place it in the entry (rannamaari) itself. --Lo Ximiendo (talk) 19:45, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Shaviyani

A Dhivehi song called "Shaviyani" "The beauty of shaviyani is its usefulness is at the end of words." -Thathu

Thaana	Transliteration	Translation
އަހަރެން ބޭނުމީ	Aharen beynumy	I want
ހިނގާށެވެ	Hingaashey	to walk
ދުވާށެވެ	Dhuvaashey	to run
ފަތާށެވެ	Fathaashey	to swim
މަސްބާނާށެވެ	Masbaanaashey	to fish (literally it means to-catch-fish)
ދޮނެވެލީގެ ގޮނޑުދޮށުގައި އޮށޯވެ އޮންނާށެވެ	Dhonveleege gondudhoshuga oshoave onnaashey	to lie down on the white sandy beach

-- Luceatlux (talk) 18:05, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Dhivehi verb entries

From what I've read from here, I think we may want to use the gerund form of Dhivehi verbs. Am I right? --Lo Ximiendo (talk) 02:07, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

Maybe I don't know what Gerund means.. from what I understand it is the "ING"ing of words. If that is true then, no.

To Swim is (ފެތުން) Fetun When you say "He is swimming." Fatanii (ފަތަނީ).

Hingun = To Walk (ހިނގުން) Duvun = To Run (ދުވުން) Fetun = To Swim (ފެތުން)

I maybe wrong.. so tell me. What did you specifically read from that dictionary?

--Luceatlux (talk) 19:13, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

According to that dictionary, the root form of the English verb is the infinitive, while the root form of the Dhivehi verb is the gerund. --Lo Ximiendo (talk) 19:52, 11 December 2012 (UTC)