User talk:Akhaeron
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Enjoy your stay at Wiktionary! This, that and the other (talk) 09:24, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
Shughni entries
[edit]Hi Akhaeron, thanks for the Shughni entries. What dictionary are you using? Also note that the Shughni translit module automatically adds transliterations, so you don't need to fill the |tr=
parameter. --{{victar|talk}}
17:16, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- Hello! I'm using https://pamiri.online/dict, which is an online dictionary made by Russian researchers. For etymologies, I'm using the Etymological Vocabulary of the Shughni Group by Georg Morgenstierne. Oh and I have once concern with the transliterations, everything seems fine to me, but I'm confused as to why у̊ = ū̊ in the transliteration. In pretty much every source and dictionary I've seen, it's universally ů and not ū̊, the one time I believe I saw ū̊ was with Rushani and not in Shughni. However, I haven't read any of these dated Russian languages books on Shughni, so I'm speaking from what I have seen online. Regardless, I think it would be a good idea to make у̊ = ů in the transliteration policy, but I don't know who can make that change happen. Akhaeron (talk) 17:22, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- Morgenstierne's dictionary is quite outdated and many dictionaries today prefer ū̊ over ů (cf. Edelman, Karamshoev, etc.). The gold standard today in Shughni dictionaries is Karamšojev's Šugnansko-russkij slovarʹ, so if you can get a copy, this would be the better source for entries. --
{{victar|talk}}
17:32, 5 March 2024 (UTC)- Ok thank you, I will try to find a copy. Also I don't know if your or other Shughni edits knew about the pamiri.online dictionary but it's a very useful resource and it's new as well. Akhaeron (talk) 17:35, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- Do not forget to add references to the entries! Readers cannot be expected to read your mind, and showing them where you got the information from makes our dictionary much more reliable. I do recommend [originally] paper sources, as those are more stable. Thadh (talk) 23:09, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- Ok thank you, I will try to find a copy. Also I don't know if your or other Shughni edits knew about the pamiri.online dictionary but it's a very useful resource and it's new as well. Akhaeron (talk) 17:35, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- Morgenstierne's dictionary is quite outdated and many dictionaries today prefer ū̊ over ů (cf. Edelman, Karamshoev, etc.). The gold standard today in Shughni dictionaries is Karamšojev's Šugnansko-russkij slovarʹ, so if you can get a copy, this would be the better source for entries. --
Master of none
[edit]I've noticed you've been creating entries for many languages with no specific focus. I would recommend that you instead try and limit your edits to a more narrow scope of interest, allowing for quality over variety. Also, if you wouldn't mind, please add a {{Babel}}
userbox to your user page so that we might know what languages you speak. --{{victar|talk}}
00:01, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
We don't have a standard style!
[edit]Stop trying to enforce some kind of "standard". There is none. There may be tendencies to a specific layout within a language, and very rarely multiple languages share a pool of editors, so their layout will correspond, but overall, most everything is up to the editors themselves. Replacing {{affix}}
by {{af}}
or {{compound}}
by {{com}}
is a waste of both your time and the original editors, and adding "From" before an etymology without discussion will most likely get you into trouble.
Maybe best to find a language you like and add entries in it? Thadh (talk) 10:41, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- Let me reiterate, and I'm afraid a next time I catch you doing something of this kind, you'll get a block. Thadh (talk) 17:09, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- derstood, apologies!n Akhaeron (talk) 17:14, 2 June 2024 (UTC)