Template talk:R:Logeion

RFM discussion: February 2023

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T:R:Logeion and T:R:LOGEION

Do we really need both of these templates? They're reference templates for the same website. It looks like T:R:LOGEION, although newer, is more widely used and more flexible, so I'd suggest keeping it and switching the pages currently using T:R:Logeion over to the new template. Pinging @Sarri.greek as the creator of the new template. —Mahāgaja · talk 10:52, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

Thank you, @Mahagaja. I named the Temp with capitals, because its prototype name is ΛΟΓΕΙΟΝ. I know that en.wikt needs to specify refed dictionaries one by one, but it would be a handy addition, at the end of FurtherReadings. Also has Reverse index, and it seems that they update it every now and then. The R:Logeion is linked only to 25 pages: would you like me to update them? ‑‑Sarri.greek ^♫ I 11:19, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

@Sarri.greek: If the parameters of the old template and the new template are the same, all we have to do is redirect T:R:Logeion to T:R:LOGEION, then both names will call the same template. —Mahāgaja · talk 12:01, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

@Mahagaja:, i do not understand very much parameters like p for page, but it is no problem for me to check them one by one. Thank you. ‑‑Sarri.greek ^♫ I 12:18, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

@Sarri.greek:. I don't understand why T:R:Logeion has the parameters |p= and |pp= at all, since LOGEION is an online-only synthesis of several dictionaries, not a paper dictionary. How can it have page numbers? —Mahāgaja · talk 12:24, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

@Mahagaja: Actually, the creator Ioannescarolvs seems inactive. Would he object to a change? ‑‑Sarri.greek ^♫ I 12:30, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

@Sarri.greek: That seems very unlikely. —Mahāgaja · talk 12:53, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

OK @Mahagaja:. Then, i start changing. Please stop me if something wrong. ‑‑Sarri.greek ^♫ I 12:55, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

Hi there, I'd like to help to improve this as much as possible, I did not have time to check by myself some improvements but I can implement what you consider useful, maybe I'd ask for some help. @Mahagaja Iōannēs Carolus M M (talk) 19:14, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

@Mahagaja, finished. (i did not know the correct link to here until now) Something else: {{R:DMLBS}} gives the same link to LOGEION, but i do not know how a specific frame.dictionary could be targeted. Thank you. ‑‑Sarri.greek ^♫ I 14:39, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

@Sarri.greek: It looks like it doesn't automatically link to DMLBS. I added {{R:DMLBS|os}} to oretenus, but if you click it, it takes you to the Lewis and Short entry. You have to click on the DMLBS tab yourself. —Mahāgaja · talk 14:51, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

I've redirected {{R:Logeion}} to {{R:LOGEION}}, so now they're the same template and it doesn't matter which title a person uses. —Mahāgaja · talk 14:53, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

@Mahagaja:, yes, good idea. It would be nice if someone knew (i have tried but failed) to give a link to a specific frame e.g. htpps.....?id^=DuCange or other (I have checked their code, it says ?id^=XXXX but I do not know what the address for each frame is. (([1]about), css) I also tried https___logeion.uchicago.edu_Attica_id^=DuCange&class=entry.html or url(http://www.w3.org/XML/1998/namespace);div[id^=DMLBS].entry *{display:inline}div[id^=DMLBS].entry MLDFASC,div[id^=DMLBS]. ... entry[crossref=true] Would someone know how to do it, perhaps Erutuon. ‑‑Sarri.greek ^♫ I 15:06, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

Or J3133, since he created {{R:DMLBS}}. —Mahāgaja · talk 15:09, 10 February 2023 (UTC)