Talk:habang-buhay na pagkabilanggo

Reclusion perpetua

@TagaSanPedroAko Hey, just wondering how you know this term is used for "reclusion perpetua". Any legal text in Tagalog that we can use as a source? --Mar vin kaiser (talk) 12:01, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

@Mar vin kaiser: Usage in news, and also true crime and legal-oriented program like Imbestigador, Ipaglaban Mo, and SOCO. It can also mean "life imprisonment" as used in reporting of foreign news, but it would otherwise point to reclusión perpetua or 40 years imprisonment in the Philippine legal system. The thing is both the English and Spanish both translate word-by-word to this. TagaSanPedroAko (talk) 21:25, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

@TagaSanPedroAko: Here's some points:

1. Even in Philippine law in English, there are two terms, "reclusion perpetua" and "life imprisonment".
2. The term "reclusion perpetua" translates to "permanenteng pagkabilanggo" in Tagalog, not "habambuhay", at least if you search online.
3. Think about it, if legal terms were to be used in Tagalog, these two concepts need to be distinguished. What would be the term for both in Tagalog? It needs to be different. --Mar vin kaiser (talk) 22:06, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
4. When the term "habambuhay na pagkabilanggo" is used in shows, how do you it means "reclusion perpetua" and not "life imprisonment" which also exists in Philippine law? --Mar vin kaiser (talk) 22:06, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

on how it's used in shows, why it can also mean "reclusion perpetua" is because it implies the highest penalty under our present Revised Penal Code (since death penalty is abolished). We also use "life imprisonment" for the same in English-language media but the term's not used in the Revised Penal Code (which is based on Spanish law), which specified the longest prison term is up to 40 years (the Revised Penal Code definition for "reclusion perpetua"), not X years to life as in countries where life imprisonment is used. TagaSanPedroAko (talk) 22:27, 10 January 2022 (UTC)