Talk:firtle

Deletion debate

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Transwiki:Firtle

How reliable do we feel is the source, an online dictionary Lakeland Dialect Society. In the fineprint it's only "maintained sporadically". I'd rather see verified sources. Goldenrowley 08:06, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

It's in a number of more reliable-seeming dictionaries — [1] [2] [3] [4][5] — and while some of those may have drawn on each other, others seem to have some idea whereof they speak. However, none of the inflected forms firtles/firtling/firtlin/firtled has any relevant hits on b.g.c. SFAICT, and I couldn't find any relevant hits for the lemma form either (though there were a lot of false positives, so I didn't go all the way to the end).
Does anyone know anything about the Cumbrian dialect? Are words in it likely to have found their way into print? (Should we be a bit lax?)
—Ruakh_TALK 12:30, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

We have a few Cumbrian numbers ((deprecated template usage) yan, (deprecated template usage) tan, (deprecated template usage) tethera etc) and, as far as I can remember from holidays in the Lake District, these are only used to count sheep. I don't think there is much in the way of written Cumbrian literature. SemperBlotto 16:33, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

I think the fact Ruakh found firtle in printed dictionaries such as Westmoreland and Cumberland dialects: Dialogues, poems, songs, and ballads makes the root 'firtle' pass RFV, without question. Shall I transfer it to the main namespace firtle, initially without inflected forms? Goldenrowley 01:47, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

It doesn't really "pass" RFV, because those are mentions rather than uses; but we do generally let people "withdraw" their own RFVs, if their concerns are satisfied. Of course, that doesn't prevent someone in the future from deciding to re-list a word and demanding citations of use. —Ruakh_TALK 01:59, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll just withdraw it as my concerns are satisfied. 'RFV WITHDRAWN.' Goldenrowley 21:47, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Note, moved to firtle (that is, main namespace with lowercase first letter). Mglovesfun (talk) 00:02, 7 November 2010 (UTC)