Talk:alsof er een engeltje op je tong piest
Add topicLatest comment: 5 years ago by Rua
@Lambiam, Rua, DrJos, Mnemosientje I think this is the most commonly used form of this expression. It may be a little odd to lemmatise a form with a second-person pronoun though. Does anybody mind if this becomes the lemma? ←₰-→ Lingo Bingo Dingo (talk) 08:32, 27 November 2019 (UTC)
- Which second-person: the "engeltje" of "je" which belongs to "tong" and id in fact "jouw" or "your". This is the most common expression I know. --DrJos (talk) 08:52, 27 November 2019 (UTC)
- The possessive pronoun/determiner. It's still second person even if it isn't an independent pronoun.
←₰-→Lingo Bingo Dingo (talk) 08:29, 28 November 2019 (UTC)
- The possessive pronoun/determiner. It's still second person even if it isn't an independent pronoun.
- Dutch doesn't have an impersonal possessive like English's one, so that always makes these cases difficult. I think je is an ok alternative. —Rua (mew) 09:46, 27 November 2019 (UTC)
- Any idea how other dictionaries lemmatise phrases like this? —Rua (mew) 09:55, 27 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Rua It seems that it is only included as a phrase by more recent dictionaries, who use the form with je (Van Dale omits er, but that doesn't seem to be the most common). Curiously, some dictionaries have this under a separate lemma engeltje, even though the idiomatic sense "aborted foetus" is no doubt less than ideal for this phrase.
←₰-→Lingo Bingo Dingo (talk) 08:29, 28 November 2019 (UTC)- If they're all using je, then we can too! —Rua (mew) 10:06, 28 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Rua It seems that it is only included as a phrase by more recent dictionaries, who use the form with je (Van Dale omits er, but that doesn't seem to be the most common). Curiously, some dictionaries have this under a separate lemma engeltje, even though the idiomatic sense "aborted foetus" is no doubt less than ideal for this phrase.