Talk:Santorum

So who actually bears

So who actually bears this name other than the famous Rick, I wonder? Equinox ◑ 00:07, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

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Santorum#Etymology

I've added an etymology for the surname Santorum, but Cirt insists I need to cite a source, even though almost all etymologies on this site lack sources. I've looked all over the place to find a policy on citing sources for etymologies, but the only thing I found was in relation to recently coined expressions. If the etymology was somehow questionable I'd understand the need for a source, but it's so obvious that I'm really just confused why this etymology is such a big deal for Cirt. 84.198.56.170 16:52, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

The problem with surnames is that they are extremely prone to folk etymology. Ungoliant MMDCCLXIV 17:10, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

I don't know how you'd find a reference for this, but given the loss of the c from sanctus to santo, I'd say it's a perfectly reasonable intermediate form. --Μετάknowledge^{discuss/deeds} 17:13, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

Think of it like this: on Wikipedia, any unsourced sentence could be removed, but only some are removed: why only some and not others? Perhaps sceptical editors only see some and not others. In the case of Santorum, there are several websites with different etymological suggestions (the Latin sanctorum, the Italian name Santoro), but I'm having a hard time finding a reliable reference to cite in support of any one of those etymologies. - -sche (discuss) 17:37, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

On a related note, someone removed the etymology for "freedom of speech". Is this kind of thing normal? 84.198.56.170 17:21, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

Well, there was hardly any etymology. Nothing to say when (or where) the term was first used (or popular), nothing to indicate its initial referent. Whoever added that {{rfe}} was perfectly justified. Should he have removed {{compound}}? The phrase is a compound of those three words; on the other hand, saying so doesn't add any information that's not obvious to most readers.​—msh210℠ (talk) 21:37, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

Wrong forum; use {{rfv-etymology}} which links to Talk:Santorum#Etymology. Mglovesfun (talk) 21:48, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

First name

Some books mention people like "Santorum Vittorio" who seem to have this as a first name. (?) - -sche (discuss) 00:59, 17 August 2015 (UTC)