Talk:賞月

Romanization for the quotation

Pinging @Justinrleung, Mar vin kaiser, RcAlex36, The dog2 Currently there's a quotation taken from a poem by 賴和. What was the original language of the work, Min Nan or Mandarin? (right now the quotation with auto-generated romanization takes it as if it were Mandarin, but I don't feel this is certain). --Frigoris (talk) 15:41, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

@Frigoris: I don't know for sure, but given the time he lived, most Taiwanese at that time would not have known Mandarin, since they would have learnt Japanese in school, so my hunch is that it would be in Min Nan. The dog2 (talk) 16:08, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

@The dog2: thanks, I feel that could be the case. Could you add a romanization for the quotation? This requires changing the CL parameter to MN, manually checking the auto-generated POJ, and fixing any problems. --Frigoris (talk) 18:35, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

@Frigoris: Let's also see what the others think. If it was written in Classical Chinese, it is meant to be readable in all Chinese dialects. Of course, how well it rhymes does differ between dialects. I'm not an expert on Hokkien, but my understanding is that when you read Classical Chinese, the literary reading is what you should use. The dog2 (talk) 18:38, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

@The dog2: sure, let's wait and see. The problem is mostly about the fact that, as it's currently implemented, the CL (classical) variant can only be displayed as the Mandarin reading in Pinyin romanization. Most of the time this isn't a problem for pre-modern works dating to the antiquity or classical eras, but in the case of newer works emulating a classical form or style, I fear that an unintended "reading" may distort the cultural identities surrounding the work. --Frigoris (talk) 18:49, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

@Frigoris: Hi. My educated guess is that this is written in 文言文 or Literary Chinese. He only experimented with writing in Taiwanese. --Mar vin kaiser (talk) 06:45, 25 August 2021 (UTC)