Talk:御神木

RFV discussion: December 2017–April 2018

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御神木#Chinese

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Failed. Wyang (talk) 09:03, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

RFD discussion: April 2018–February 2021

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御神木

This is not a lexicalized term, but simply 神木 (shinboku, “sacred tree”) with the honorific prefix 御 (go).

Some terms in Japanese that include this prefix have indeed lexicalized, like 御飯 (gohan, “food, a meal”, literally “honorable + cooked rice”), and such terms merit inclusion. However, 御神木 is not one of these, and is purely SOP.

Moreover, just comparing usage patterns, the unprefixed form is much more common.

• google:"御神木" -- 602K putative hits
• google:"神木" -"御神木" -- 5,660K putative hits

‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │^{Tala við mig} 16:59, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

Comment: Daijisen does list 「御神木」, with the description 「『神木』に同じ。」 ("Same as 「神木」."). (I don't have an opinion as to whether it should be included in Wiktionary.) --Ornilnas (talk) 05:07, 1 July 2018 (UTC)

(weakly keep) in my (I am Japanese native speaker) opinion, there are bit difference between ご神(しん)木(ぼく) (goshinboku) (御(ご)神(しん)木(ぼく) (goshinboku)) and 神(しん)木(ぼく) (shinboku). I think ご神(しん)木(ぼく) (goshinboku) means sacred (large) tree in Shinto shrine or other sacred area and 神(しん)木(ぼく) (shinboku) means (purely) sacred tree (or twing or bough). Google search cannot be used as the evidence in this RfD because search results include place name and Japanese family name.

Japanese place name with "神木" (According to jusyo.jp)

1. 神木(しぼく)本(ほん)町(ちょう) (Shiboku Honchō), Miyamae-ku, Kawasaki, Kanagawa
2. 神木(しぼく) (Shiboku), Miyamae-ku, Kawasaki, Kanagawa
3. 治郎(じろ)丸(まる)神(しん)木(ぼく)町(ちょう) (Jiromaru Shinbokuchō), Inazawa, Aichi
4. 神木(こうのぎ) (Kōnogi), Mihama, Minami-muro County, Mie
5. 神(かみ)木(き)町(ちょう) (Kamikichō), Moriguchi, Osaka
6. 平(へい)荘(そう)町(ちょう)神(こう)木(ぎ) (Heisōchō Kōgi), Kakogawa, Hyogo
7. 神(じん)木(ぎ) (Jingi), Ano, Kamiyama, Myozai County, Tokushima
8. 明(みょう)神(じん)木(ぎ) (Myōjingi), Saijo, Ehime

Kawasaki and Moriguchi are large city and related search results are numerous. 神木隆之介 (Ryūnosuke Kamiki) is Japanese famous actor and seiyū. 片割れ靴下 (talk) 20:53, 22 February 2020 (UTC)

Kept. No consensus.--Jusjih (talk) 23:45, 14 February 2021 (UTC)