Talk:巴豆

Pronunciation

@Mlgc1998 Where did you get "pa-tāu"? --Mar vin kaiser (talk) 06:55, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

@Mar vin kaiser: the individual characters--Mlgc1998 (talk) 08:39, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

@Mlgc1998: Where's your source that the word "pa-tāu" is used in Philippine Hokkien? --Mar vin kaiser (talk) 08:44, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

@Mlgc1998: It's generally bad practice to use the individual characters to infer pronunciations. — justin(r)leung _{{ (t...) | c=› }} 08:45, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

@Mar vin kaiser: FWIW, it is in "Hokkien Chinese borrowings in Tagalog", which is probably where @Mlgc1998 got it from, but it seems really ambiguous as to what it's referring to. — justin(r)leung _{{ (t...) | c=› }} 09:29, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

@Mlgc1998, Mar vin kaiser: I think for bataw, 肉豆 might be a more likely etymon because it refers to the hyacinth bean (according to various Taiwanese sources, e.g. 臺灣植物名彙, 臺日大辭典, Embree's 臺英辭典, Maryknoll and 臺灣閩南語常用詞辭典). The only issue is that it may not be used in Quanzhou, though that could mean that the word might have been borrowed into Tagalog way earlier. — justin(r)leung _{{ (t...) | c=› }} 09:35, 22 November 2020 (UTC)