Talk:کیلئے
Add topic@Taimoorahmed11 Sorry about the late reply. I wasn’t looking at Wiktionary for several days. According to Wikipedia and the English entry contraction, for a term to be considered to a contraction, there has to be a change in prounciation that is reflected in the spelling. Assuming that the Urdu spelling at के लिए (ke lie), کے لِئے, is the underlying written form that is shortened to کیلِئے, the difference appears to be merely of spelling rather than pronunciation (the deletion of the space character and the medial بَڑی یے changed to چھوٹی یے). Ignoring the undertie ‿ and the glide /j/, there is no pronunciation difference
- from کے لِئے: /keː‿lɪ.eː/
- to کیلِئے: /keː.lɪ.jeː/.
If the primary Urdu entry is to be at کے لِئے, then perhaps a Category:Form-of templates that could be used is {{alternative spelling of}} unless there is another that is more precise. Kutchkutch (talk) 23:44, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Kutchkutch No worries! Thank you for your answer, so what would be the appropriate part of speech tag for this, if not contraction?
-Taimoor Ahmed(گل بات؟) 20:02, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Kutchkutch No worries! Thank you for your answer, so what would be the appropriate part of speech tag for this, if not contraction?
- @Taimoorahmed11: Since this term would be considered a compound postposition, the appropriate part of speech header would be
===Postposition===,. See the following for more on compound postpositions:
- @Taimoorahmed11: Since this term would be considered a compound postposition, the appropriate part of speech header would be
- Compound postpositions are similar to compound prepositions in English, such as according to, and instead of. Usually, compound postpositions include two components, the first being the simple postposition کا / का in the oblique case, and the second usually being an adverb.
- کے / के (masculine oblique of کا / का) indicates that the second word in the compound is a masculine possessed item
- In this case, it appears that لِئے (lie) / लिये (liye) / लिए (lie), the oblique masculine perfective participle of لینا (lenā) / लेना (lenā), functions as adverb for the second component of the compound postposition. Kutchkutch (talk) 10:40, 1 July 2021 (UTC)