Talk:إبزيم

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@Vahagn_Petrosyan: Do you know anything about Armenian abzēdon k‘amar "girdle"? @Fay Freak: How about Aramaic אבזיינא "buckle".--Calak (talk) 08:38, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

@Calak: աբզէդոն (abzēdon) is a word in the invented language called Ṙuštuni. It is defined as քամար (kʻamar, “girdle”) in a certain wordlist. See here, page 653. There is also աբզէն (abzēn, “board, plank”) in this "language". The words are supposedly invented from scratch. --Vahag (talk) 12:07, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

@Fay Freak: It is from MP abzēn- [ʾbzyn] "to sew", abzīn [ʾbcyrc] "cloth, material" (or form NP cognate), from abi- + √čay- "to cut, to pierce, to sew". for final -n~-m compare MP/NP بام (bâm)~بان (bân).--Calak (talk) 12:43, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

etymology

What is the semantic connection between Persian baz and Pesian abzīn that justifies the etymology for abzīn given here? The association seems arbitrary. Is there a source for this? Mardinli Deli (talk) 22:34, 4 September 2022 (UTC)

@Mardinli Deli: Does not at all seem arbitrary to me. But note the “maybe”. Maybe I also have something from {{R:xaa:ELA|II}} again (improving their crude theories in comparison to the sources). A lot of Wiktionary-original research is synthesized here in any case (neither w:WP:SYNTHESIS nor w:WP:OR apply here). Fay Freak (talk) 13:18, 5 September 2022 (UTC)