Wiktionary talk:Requested entries (Dutch)
Add topicLatest comment: 6 years ago by 84.161.44.168 in topic Other terms
Quote: Please remove articles from this list once they have been written, (i.e., the link is "live").
Isn't this rather offensive to the native speakers? There are plenty of errors in this list that really should not become a article. A good example is the entry mensch. This word has not been written this way in Dutch for over half a century. Perhaps the person who put it there confused Dutch with German?
- I don't see anything offensive. The same line is at the top of the request page of every language. It might be nice to also have it in Dutch but I'm not able to do that. If there are errors, this is the best page to point them out. Wiktionary intends to capture all words of all languages of all eras. I myself added that word while browsing a very old Dutch document and found it interesting that at one time it was spelled identically to the German. We have many entries in other languages much older than half a century. I personally have been looking for them in Russian also and have spent some time the past week looking for the same in Spanish. Older spellings are very hard to find information about so this page is perfect for requesting help in such matters. — Hippietrail 15:28, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
Moved from Project Page
- Have confirmed that both words are alternative forms for flanel/flanellen. However I am struggling to understand its use at the above link. Maybe comic books with flannel covers? Can a native Dutch speaker confirm? Jamesjiao → T ◊ C 01:11, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
- I am pretty sure you are wrong. I am a native Dutch speaker, I do now flanel, but not fanel. It seems something very specific for books, some librarian’s terminology. H. (talk) 14:40, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
- If you do a google search with "fanel kleden" or any item of clothing, you will be sure to find some results with this word used in the sense of "a cotton-based material". the librarian term sense you mentioned seems to be specific to Bel Dutch. There does seem to be two distinct senses of flanellen here. I am not disagreeing with you, I am just trying to define this based on what I see. I encourage you to do some research, as it'd be easier for you than me. Jamesjiao → T ◊ C 12:16, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
- I wish I could get my hands on a copy of Schuiten's De Duistere Steden. It would become obvious then what 'enkele pagina's met fanellen' refers to. Jamesjiao → T ◊ C 04:37, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
- If you do a google search with "fanel kleden" or any item of clothing, you will be sure to find some results with this word used in the sense of "a cotton-based material". the librarian term sense you mentioned seems to be specific to Bel Dutch. There does seem to be two distinct senses of flanellen here. I am not disagreeing with you, I am just trying to define this based on what I see. I encourage you to do some research, as it'd be easier for you than me. Jamesjiao → T ◊ C 12:16, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
- I am pretty sure you are wrong. I am a native Dutch speaker, I do now flanel, but not fanel. It seems something very specific for books, some librarian’s terminology. H. (talk) 14:40, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
- Have confirmed that both words are alternative forms for flanel/flanellen. However I am struggling to understand its use at the above link. Maybe comic books with flannel covers? Can a native Dutch speaker confirm? Jamesjiao → T ◊ C 01:11, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
removeable?
[edit]Are the following links removeable?
- mymemory.translated.net : it doesn't seem to be reliable
- LookWayUp Dutch-English (only provides about a dozen free lookups per day per IP; paysite otherwise) : per note
Are the following terms removeable?
- toegespeeld: entry exists, and as long as inflection isn't explicitly requested there is Category:Requests for inflections in Dutch participle entries.
- sleepwet: exist, and is in Category:Hot words (that is, it requires a checking in a later time).
-84.161.43.35 19:16, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
- I'd prefer to keep LookWayUp, not sure about mymemory. It's okay to remove those terms.
←₰-→Lingo Bingo Dingo (talk) 14:33, 17 February 2018 (UTC)- Examples from mymemory searching for dat and het: "[Dutch:] dat - [English:] certifies that - [Info:]", "dat - dat", "Het - Het - Reference: Wikipedia", "Het - uitmetings kaart - Reference: Wikipedia". That's nonsense. I added qualifier/note "(unreliable)". -84.161.44.168 03:13, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
Other terms
[edit]Just listing a few found terms, but not adding them as real request because the sense is clear and "Think twice before adding long lists of words":
- Dutch month names: louwmaand (= Jan.), sprokkelmaand (= Feb.), lentemaand (= Mar.), grasmaand (= Apr.), bloeimaand (= Mai.), zomermaand (= Jun.), hooimaand (= Jul.), oogstmaand (= Aug.), herfstmaand (= Sep.), wijnmaand (= Oct.), slachtmaand (= Nov.), wintermaand (= Dec.). BTW: They resemble (older) German names like Herbstmond or Herbstmonat.
- numbers: een en twintig (= eenentwintig, 21), twee en twintig (= 22), etc.; millioen (pl. -en; = 1.000.000)
- ae instead of aa spellings (ae is rarer than aa and rather Belgian/Flemish (especially Belgian/Flemish, only Belgian/Flemish?)): naem, naemwoord (alternative form of naamwoord), spraek, spraekkonst & spraek-konst (rather rare alternative form of spraekkunst, spraakkonst and spraakkunst, strange thing is konst vs. kunst), tael
- y instead of ij spellings (probably rather Belgian/Flemish too): -lyk (= -lijk)
- word end with t instead of d (denoted final obstruent devoicing?; cp. s vs. z as in -loos vs. -loze): woort (pl. woorden, alternative form of woord), naamwoort and naemwoort (both rather rare, uncommon, from the 17th and 18th centuries?)