Wiktionary:Votes/pl-2012-03/Moving "Coordinate terms" up in ELE
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Moving "Coordinate terms" up in ELE
[edit]- Voting on: Changing the order of headings in WT:ELE#Order of headings by moving "Coordinate terms" up.
Current state:
- Synonyms
- Antonyms
- Other allowable -nyms
- Derived terms
- Related terms
- Coordinate terms
- Descendants
Proposed state:
- Synonyms
- Antonyms
- Other allowable -nyms
- Coordinate terms
- Derived terms
- Related terms
- Descendants
Rationale:
- Keeping "synonyms", "antonyms", "other allowable -nyms" and "coordinate terms" all together, as sections of semantic relations
- Keeping "derived terms", "related terms" and "descendants" all together, as sections of etymological relations.
Notes:
- In a number of entries, the semantic relations are already separate from the etymological relations, even if this format contradicts ELE. Examples: axis, iron, quality, study, mother, penultimate. For contrast, in joke and diary, the order of headings from ELE is obeyed. The exact number of entries by whether the order of headings is obeyed remains unknown.
- ELE seems to have a contradiction, as the headers are ordered as follows and "Coordinate terms" is listed inside WT:Semantic relations.
- 3.3.4 Synonyms
- 3.3.5 Further semantic relations
- 3.3.6 Derived terms
- 3.3.7 Related terms
- This would entail a change to the order of headings established by a previous vote.
- Vote starts: 00:01, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
- Vote ends: 23.59, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
- Vote created: --Daniel 21:09, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
- Discussion:
Support
[edit]- Support --Daniel 16:56, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
- Support . I do agree with Liliana, but I also believe this vote is an improvement either way. —CodeCat 17:43, 6 April 2012 (UTC) 17:39, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
- Support - -sche (discuss) 18:01, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
- Support --Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 15:34, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
- Support. Ungoliant MMDCCLXIV 20:04, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
- Support EncycloPetey (talk) 22:07, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
- Support —RuakhTALK 22:08, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
- Support BenjaminBarrett12 (talk) 17:36, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
- Support.—msh210℠ (talk) 21:57, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
Oppose
[edit]Abstain
[edit]- Abstain I would prefer that the heading "Coordinate terms" be dropped entirely. It is hardly even used anywhere, and the purpose it serves is handled quite well by topical categories. -- Liliana • 17:33, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
- My search for "coordinate terms" in the main namespace (link) returned 2,919 results.
- Moreover, the heading "See also" is often used to fulfill the purpose of "Coordinate terms", such as in joker. Therefore, there are entries that link to their coordinate terms together in a section but did not appear in the search above.
- I do think that joker should link to ace, king, queen and jack directly. Merely replacing the direct links by one or more topical categories would be a bad idea, because they require the aditional effort of searching through the many category links at the bottom and clicking the right one; and, topical categories often are messy, inconsistent and untended. --Daniel 21:58, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
- =See also= ? Ƿidsiþ 07:42, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
- Abstain Ƿidsiþ 07:41, 21 May 2012 (UTC) as above.
Decision
[edit]Vote passes 9-0-1. I have modified ELE, but we will need a user with a bot to execute it in the entries. --Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 00:05, 8 May 2012 (UTC)