User talk:EncycloPetey/Latin verbs

"Derivatives"

I wanted to clarify whether this is supposed to show the Latin words' descendants in daughter languages, or if it should also show borrowings/loanwords. Someone added localiser as the French reflex of loco, when they're only distantly related (the direct descendant is louer). Similarly I have excluded for example céder as a reflex of cedo because it was borrowed from Latin in the Middle Ages (the regular development of cedere would have been something like Old French *ceidre, Christ known what that would have given in modern French). If we did have a list of only descendants it would certainly make it easier to work out comparisons like this, without borrowings clouding the issue. Widsith 22:06, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

I do include some borrowings when I set up Descendants sections of Latin entries, but I try to limit them to direct borrowings, if that makes sense. For Latin entries, I include one English word (at most, there may be none), but when it comes to Romance languages I often do not know whether the word descended within the daughter language or was borrowed from Latin at a later date. It can be difficult for me to make the determination in some cases. My feeling is that the distinction can be made in the Etymology section of the borrowed word's entry, but if there were a way to also mark these in the Descendants section, that would be helpful.

However, for purposes of this project, I intend it to focus on direct descendants. If other entries are improved as a result of the project, that's great. Likewise if we should get some spillover improvement in Ladino, Neapolitan, or Galician. The overall purpose of this project is entry improvement; it merely has a specific focus as its basis. --EncycloPetey 23:10, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

English

Have you considered doing something in regards to English words that, when prefixed, take the latinate root, but otherwise take a different one? ie.

• teneō -> have/hold -> tain -> abstain, contain, detain, entertain, maintain, obtain, pertain, retain, sustain; tenet
• sentiō -> feel/sense -> sent -> assent, consent, dissent, resent; sentiment
• pōnō -> put/place -> pose -> compose, impose, oppose, pose, propose, repose, transpose; pose, position, purpose
• capiō -> take/seize -> ceive -> conceive, deceive, perceive, receive; seize(?)

- MK (^t/_c) 07:36, 8 June 2010 (UTC)