Template talk:zh-no-solo

Question by Suzukaze-c

= Template:zh-obsolete ("may be preserved in fossilised compounds and expressions")? @KevinUp. —Suzukaze-c◇◇ 06:18, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

@Suzukaze-c: I think we can insert an additional parameter to Template:zh-obsolete to make it display:

Obsolete sense as a standalone character in Modern Standard Chinese — may be preserved in fossilised compounds and expressions or other varieties of Chinese

This template can then be deleted once that is done. KevinUp (talk) 06:25, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

Hm, they are indeed not the same then. (This seems to be the same issue as User_talk:Wyang#詞素.) It might be problematic if the outward appearance of {{zh-obsolete}} does not change though. The difference in tooltip text might be too subtle. —Suzukaze-c◇◇ 06:32, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

@KevinUp, Suzukaze-c On another note, I don't think we should be using the same symbol as {{zh-hg}}. It makes it very confusing, especially on mobile, where tooltips don't work. — justin(r)leung _{{ (t...) | c=› }} 07:20, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

(TBH I've had mild doubts about whether it is good to ① use tooltips and ② occupy the template name of {{†}}. —Suzukaze-c◇◇ 07:28, 6 September 2018 (UTC))

@Justinrleung: I made some changes based on the suggestions given. Single quotes were added to 'stand-alone character' for emphasis. Can we create some sort of category for entries using this template? Also, entries using {{zh-historical-dict}} needs to be placed under a certain category. KevinUp (talk) 07:48, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

I think we now have ① {{†}} (alias for {{zh-obsolete}}), ② {{zh-hg}} (alias for {{zh-historical-dict}} which uses the ‡ symbol) and ③ {{zh-no-solo}}, which uses the scribe symbol (⁜). All three can be used for single-character Chinese entries but ② and ③ are not to be used for compound words. KevinUp (talk) 08:01, 6 September 2018 (UTC)