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Aorist form

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The conjugation table claims to show aorist forms of verbs, but to my knowledge no such form exists in modern Persian. My grammar doesn't mention it, and I can't find any references on Google supporting it either. HannesP (talk) 09:50, 6 April 2017 (UTC)Reply

  • I, too, cannot find any reference to aorist forms in my English-language grammars of contemporary Persian (though, none of these grammars look to be especially good...) The newest one that does is Lee's A Grammar of the Persian Language (1828). I wonder if there is anything else that needs closer examination, given this. I cannot as of yet fully read the script; I am in the beginning stages of considering learning, so, I will defer to really anyone, but I'd like an explanation. I will note that the pages on Wikipedia for w:Persian grammar and more specifically w:Middle Persian to me seem like they could do with some expansion, clarification, etc. On the face of it, I wonder too at the grammar section on w:Old Persian - the verb section is rather short, I suspect there is more that can and should be said in an encyclopedic entry. If I am to do it, though, it will be a while before I have the relevant knowledge. Iolo ap Rhys (talk) 15:08, 28 December 2020 (UTC)Reply

English glosses

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Would there be any opposition to adding English glosses to the table, ie. 1st for first person, etc.? Iolo ap Rhys (talk) 15:08, 28 December 2020 (UTC)Reply

subjunctive for verbs starting with vowel

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My suspicion is that the subjunctive prefix be- turns into biy- before a vowel. See the wiktionary page for âmadan (آمدن) which has biyâyam. The 'Persian verb conjugator' (https://www.jahanshiri.ir/pvc/en/) also gives biy- for verbs like âmuxtan and âwardan. Exarchus (talk) 15:36, 29 May 2023 (UTC)Reply

Inferential past and negative

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My colleague is a Persian linguist and he informed me there's an inferential past construction that's missing from the tables here. The inferential past is constructed by taking the past or past imperfect, and adding ه after the stem and before the agreement suffix. For example

می‌برده‌اند

in

آن‌ها می‌گویند مقامات کوکاکولا از سیاست‌های تبعیض نژادی در نظام دستمزد و ترفیع این کارخانه بهره می‌برده‌اند.

There is also no examples of negative verbs in the conjugation paradigms. Hovsepig (talk) 20:50, 21 October 2024 (UTC)Reply