Template talk:de-conj

This template should indicate person and number in English not (only) in German. "First person singular", "second person polite", or whatever, instead of or in addition to "sie" et al. This will make it more user-friendly for anglophones (the main target of English Wiktionary). See also old discussion regarding another template.​—msh210℠ (talk) 20:17, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

Lol, would you like to do the honors? — [ R·I·C ] Laurent — 00:16, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

If I knew enough German to know which numbers, persons, and politeness degrees to put in, and I knew the German editors weren't against it, I'd be glad. Both of those can be accomplished by informing me.​—msh210℠ (talk) 03:10, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

I could do what you're talking about, but keeping the template looking relatively attractive will be challenging. I might do it, but not right now. — [ R·I·C ] Laurent — 12:48, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

Subjunctive notes

I'm all in favour of the note for the past subjunctive, but what about the present subjunctive? Forms like "du machest, ihr machet", etc., are not just "rare, except in very formal contexts", they are extremely rare in all contexts. (Personally I'd consider them ghost forms that hardly even exist.) Please add a note for these forms as well!

In contemporary German, the present subjunctive is used in formal language only, but even in formal language it is restricted to the following forms:

1.) the entire paradigm of the verbs sein and mögen;

2.) the singular of other irregular verbs, i.e. dürfen, haben, können, müssen, sollen, werden, wissen, wollen;

3.) the 3rd person singular of all verbs.

For simplicity, the note "extremely rare" could simply be added to the 2nd person present subjunctive forms of all verbs except the ten irregular verbs.

77.11.186.115 22:24, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

Lächele/lächle/lächel

Why is the form "ich lächel" mentioned in the templates even though it's informal and this informal form without -e is not mentioned in other verbs which don't end in "-eln" or "-ern"? Couldn't we at least add a label "informal" to this form? Zhnka (talk) 08:10, 19 March 2023 (UTC)

Accel creates pages with inflection 1//3//1//3

@Benwing2: When I visit befleissigen and click on the green link befleissigte, it fills out the content field with this text:

==German==

===Verb===
{{head|de|verb form}}

# {{infl of|de|befleissigen||1//3//1//3|s|pret|;|1//3|s|sub|II}}

I think the 1//3//1//3 part is wrong; it should be 1//3.

I became aware of this because User:Tc14Hd fixed this for many entries, including many that I created. — Fytcha〈 T | L | C 〉 19:25, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

Perhaps also happening in other modules? diff — Fytcha〈 T | L | C 〉 19:28, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

Sorry, apparently this has already been reported elsewhere: Module talk:accel § Duplicate person numbers — Fytcha〈 T | L | C 〉 19:30, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

Yeah, it seems that the root cause of the problem is in Module:accel. But it's good that you also pinged User:Benwing2, maybe they will react quicker :-) Tc14Hd (aka Marc) (talk) 19:46, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

@Fytcha This is happening because of bad interactions between the headword and conjugation table accelerators when both of them exist. Fixing this is somewhat tricky so for now I disabled the German headword accelerators; you should use the conjugation table ones. Sorry if this is less convenient. Benwing2 (talk) 20:57, 4 December 2024 (UTC)