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Gt stem conjugations

Hey @Shuraya hope you’re well. Although rare in Iraqi Koine and Sureth in general in koine it would be ܐܸܬ݂ܦܥܸܠ without the meem at the start in same way as it is in the D stem; since we’ve agreed on keeping the grammar conventions such as verb conjugations as close to the Classical as possible rather than the Iraqi Koine, was just wondering if this is the way we should do the Gt stem?

Antonklroberts (talk) 02:50, 16 March 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Antonklroberts, thank u I hope you’re doing good! Personally I would write the singular masculine third person Gt as ܡܸܬ݂ܦܥܸܠ, feminine ܡܸܬ݂ܦܲܥܠܝܼܢ݇ ,ܡܸܬ݂ܦܲܥܠܵܐ plural as this is the way it is in Classical and also aligns with the way we say the other verbs in modern.

I believe Iraqi Koine altered it to ܐܸܬ݂ܦܥܸܠ because otherwise the past tense with a causative (replacing p3l with Gt of šry, a causative “to inhabit”) would have been (ܡܸܫܬܪܹܐ ܠܹܗ) - (he inhabited), making it completely identical with ([ܟܹܐ] ܡܸܫܬܪܹܐ ܠܹܗ) - (he inhabited him/he should inhabit him) and cause confusion. But since with modern we add a short Waw with the past participle in order to differentiate it from the singular 3rd person masculine (ܡܙܘܼܒܸܢ ܠܹܗ he sold) vs (ܡܙܲܒܸܢ ܠܹܗ he should sell him/he sells him), the two here being completely indistinguishable here in the Classical forms, I would alter it to (ܡܸܬ݂ܦܘܼܥܸܠ ܠܹܗ)|(ܡܸܫܬܘܼܪܹܐ ܠܹܗ) in order to distinguish the two, without doubling the 3e. Also, (ܐܸܬ݂ܦܥܸܠ) is imperative. Shuraya (talk) 03:27, 16 March 2024 (UTC)