Jump to content

Talk:werewulf

Page contents not supported in other languages.
From Wiktionary, the free dictionary
Latest comment: 6 months ago by 0DF in topic RFV discussion

RFV discussion

This is an archive page that has been kept for historical purposes. The conversations on this page are no longer live.

The following information has failed Wiktionary's verification process.

Failure to be verified means that insufficient eligible citations of this usage have been found, and the entry therefore does not meet Wiktionary inclusion criteria at the present time. We have archived here the disputed information, the verification discussion, and any documentation gathered so far, pending further evidence.
Do not re-add this information to the article without also submitting proof that it meets Wiktionary's criteria for inclusion.


Old English

The first-edition OED's entry for English werewolf (James A. H. Murray et al., editors (1884–1928), “Werewolf, werwolf”, in A New English Dictionary on Historical Principles (Oxford English Dictionary), volume X, Part 2 (V–Z), London: Clarendon Press, →OCLC, page 319) has the etymological incipit “OE. werewulf (once),…” and cites Felix Liebermann's 1903 edition of the Laws of Cnut as the earliest use (circa 1000). Liebermann reproduces three versions of that text, the relevant section of all of which I have added to Citations:werewulf. Other variae lectiones notwithstanding, all three versions use the spelling werewulf. I infer from this that the spelling *werwulf does not occur in Old English. There is a fourth manuscript of the Laws of Cnut, namely CCCC MS. 383, which has been digitised by Stanford Libraries, if anyone would like to see whether that manuscript uses that spelling. 0DF (talk) 02:57, 27 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

@0DF: The manuscript you mentioned uses werewulf (folio 40, recto, line 15). J3133 (talk) 02:25, 2 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
@J3133: That is very impressive. Thank you. It's a shame it's not possible to link ad folium quadragesimum rectum directly. Re the text's normalised version, what made you decide to make the spacing conform to that of GB-Lbl Harley MS. 55? 0DF (talk) 15:17, 2 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
@0DF: I used this spacing because it is the same in all of the other versions. J3133 (talk) 15:24, 2 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
@J3133: That's perfectly reasonable. I'm sure the other manuscripts have similar variability in their spacing, and yet Liebermann saw fit to normalise them all the same way regardless. We (or rather you) do a little rather better than him by including a strict transcription as well. 0DF (talk) 15:41, 2 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

I call this RFV failed. I'll relemmatise at werewulf. 0DF (talk) 17:25, 5 June 2024 (UTC)Reply