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Latest comment: 1 year ago by Surjection in topic RFD discussion: August–September 2023

RFD discussion: August–September 2023

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Finnish. Surjection. I don't think this is a common noun. Finland had until 2017 a central prosecutive authority called Valtakunnansyyttäjänvirasto but I find very little evidence of this being used as common noun. Finland's Valtakunnansyyttäjänvirasto was replaced in 2017 with Valtakunnansyyttäjän toimisto. Collocation valtakunnansyyttäjän toimisto seems to have some usage as a term for other countries' corresponding authorities. --Hekaheka (talk) 11:29, 3 August 2023 (UTC)Reply

The uncapitalized form seems to be attestable, but you're correct in that it isn't probably a common noun, just an uncapitalized reference to that particular institution. — SURJECTION / T / C / L / 16:15, 3 August 2023 (UTC)Reply
Added three quotes with an uncapitalized form, made it an {{alternative case form of}} and removed the plural forms. — SURJECTION / T / C / L / 19:28, 4 August 2023 (UTC)Reply
Yes, right, it is attestable, therefore should be kept. Kotus's recommendation for the names of public entities[1] is somewhat puzzling. According to it the names of ministries and courts should not be capitalized but the names of individual agencies and authorities should. On that grounds one might also label valtakunnansyyttäjänvirasto as "deprecated" or perhaps "not recommended". --Hekaheka (talk) 10:17, 5 August 2023 (UTC)Reply
Our equivalent of those labels would probably be proscribed. Some usage notes could be helpful as well. — SURJECTION / T / C / L / 12:23, 6 August 2023 (UTC)Reply
I found this, containing the following sentence: "Norjan ja Tanskan valtakunnansyyttäjänvirastojen henkilömäärä on pieni verrattuna Ruotsiin, jossa valtakunnansyyttäjä toimii myös syyttäjälaitoksen keskushallintoviranomaisena ja huolehtii mm. talous- ja henkilöstöasioista.", where the word is used in plural. However, one must say that this word is very rarely found in plural. At the bottom of this page 14 is another one. Mölli-Möllerö (talk) 20:01, 13 September 2023 (UTC)Reply
RFD-kept (as per consensus), with some changes. — SURJECTION / T / C / L / 08:44, 18 September 2023 (UTC)Reply