Talk:raw data

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raw data

Question: did this previously fail RFD? There's nothing on the talk page, but if you look at the history you can see that Msh210 RFDed it some years ago. Equinox ◑ 15:27, 26 August 2016 (UTC)

Seems to have been speedied: [1] Keith the Koala (talk) 15:52, 26 August 2016 (UTC)

Okay. I'll nominate as SoP, as in "raw numbers", "raw figures", "raw file". Equinox ◑ 16:01, 26 August 2016 (UTC)

• I didn't know what raw data is. Keep. DonnanZ (talk) 08:27, 27 August 2016 (UTC)

• Keep This is IT & statistic jargon. For Thai would be ข้อมูลดิบ. [2] --Octahedron80 (talk) 08:33, 27 August 2016 (UTC)

  It is claiming to be SoP. "Coined in the 1910s, from raw ‎(“unprocessed”) +‎ data." Then the definition "Data that has not been analyzed or processed." raw backs this up therefore I'm going to believe it and say delete. Renard Migrant (talk) 13:54, 27 August 2016 (UTC)

• Delete per Renard Migrant. As an IT worker for many years - even before it was called IT! - I acknowledge that the phrase was in common use, but required no special definition, since we all knew that our task involved (either Automatic or Electronic) data processing, whence the once-common contractions ADP and EDP for the field now known as information technology - "IT". "Raw data" is purely SoP: the Sum of its Parts. Only in jest could its antonym be "cooked data"! As for the statement by DonnanZ that they "didn't know what raw data is", why is that pertinent? Since the meaning of "raw data" can be ascertained using raw + data, we don't need a head entry for it; tho' it could still be used to exemplify the "unprocessed" sense of raw. yoyo (talk) 17:31, 27 August 2016 (UTC)

  Why purposefully make it more difficult? That's what I don't understand. The SoP policy is like a huge turd. DonnanZ (talk) 09:23, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

  Fundamentally, including definitions for all strings of words that exist isn't the job of a dictionary. Also, I think if you teach people parrot fashion what strings of words mean they actually learn slower not faster because they're not learning how the language works. Like the old times tables they used to teach up to 12 times 12, but because they didn't know how to multiply, if you asked them what 13 times 12 was they didn't know. Renard Migrant (talk) 16:28, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

• Delete per Renard (it defines itself as SOP...) and Yoyo. - -sche (discuss) 03:45, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
• Keep as a set phrase. bd2412 T 12:52, 20 September 2016 (UTC)
• Delete. The sense of raw (sense 4) is one that I myself have used in expressions like "the raw page count at Google Books". In this sense, raw can be used with words like text, numbers, bitstream, pixels, results, returns, P/E, leads (vs "qualified"), recruit, trainee, freshman, apprentice, postgraduate. DCDuring TALK 13:10, 20 September 2016 (UTC)
• Weak keep. Maybe a sum of parts but fixed. Etymon of the Japanese ローデータ and the Korean 로 데이터. — TAKASUGI Shinji (talk) 03:22, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

• Keep. --WikiTiki89 15:12, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

Kept. bd2412 T 13:35, 27 September 2016 (UTC)