Talk:per-

Intransitive? Probably not.

The article contains:

”# causative voice imperative mood intransitive verb prefix of an adjective

1. ‎per- + ‎besar (“big”) → ‎perbesar (“make bigger something big”)”

How is that an intransitive verb?Redav (talk) 02:00, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

Patient? Probably not.

The article contains:

”# nominal patient used to form nouns from verbs conjugated with ber-

1. ‎per- + ‎ajar (“to teach”) → ‎pelajar (“learner”)

   ‎per- + ‎kerja (“to work”) → ‎pekerja (“worker”)”

How is a learner and how is a worker a nominal patient?Redav (talk) 02:29, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

Not sure about the chemistry entries

Right now there's a sense entry " Added to the name of an element in a polyatomic ion to denote the number of atoms of that element (usually four)." This page: https://chemed.chem.purdue.edu/genchem/topicreview/bp/ch2/names.html - says it's "used to indicate the very highest oxidation state". Can somebody provide a reference or some examples for the second chemistry sense (per-)? Intersets (talk) 02:49, 12 March 2024 (UTC)