Talk:nickel note

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nickel note

(deprecated template usage) Nickel + (deprecated template usage) note. DCDuring TALK 15:47, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

I know the arguments about SoP being SoP even if polysemous, but nickel does have a more normal sense of 5 cents in this context.--Prosfilaes (talk) 04:23, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

I agree with Prosfilaes, although this doesn't seem to fit any of our tests. - -sche (discuss) 04:43, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

I don't get this idea of "normal" senses. "Normal" to whom? And in what context?

The term nickel note is US slang just like nickel. By the logic expressed should not any phrase (or indeed sentence) using this sense of nickel not be includable? DCDuring TALK 08:45, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Normal in standard English. Assuming nickel note means "five dollars"; if I hear the phrase nickel note, and go to look it up, nickel note leaves me wondering whether it's nickel = 5 cents, nickel = 5 dollars, or nickel = 5 hundred dollars in this context.--Prosfilaes (talk) 09:24, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Is there any combination of polysemic terms that wouldn't leave you wondering? DCDuring TALK 13:50, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Whatever. I don't know whether nickel note can mean 5 hundred dollars or not, or if it just means five dollars. That's why we have definitions.--Prosfilaes (talk) 05:40, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

Language can be ambiguous, especially taken out of context. Polysemy of components of units larger than words makes for the combinatorial explosion of such ambiguity. I do not believe that it is a reasonable objective for Wiktionary that it attempt to resolve in principle the combinatorial explosion of ambiguity. OTOH the omission of true idioms would defeat the realistic objective of enabling users to decode meaning by searching lists of senses of component terms to find those that fit each other and the context. DCDuring TALK 09:48, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

Nickel appears in several US slang terms as a substitute for five (one that we don't have here is double nickels, which refers to a 55 mph speed limit). Maybe there should be a "(slang) five" sense for nickel, which would make this more clearly SOP. Chuck Entz (talk) 21:07, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Even with that definition, it's not clear that this bill is worth five dollars and not five cents. The latter is strong candidate because of the value of a nickel. DAVilla 02:15, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Is nickel note used by the same people who use nickel meaning 5 dollars? If so, delete. — Ungoliant ^(Falai) 04:26, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

I spent an inordinate amount of time today checking on this. In the U.S.A., the term "nickel bag" or "dime bag" is used as drug slang. Neither is relevant in this context. Regarding a nickel note, I found references to pre-(U.S.) Civil War era currency that was not coinage, but rather, script. There were five cent paper bills, referred to as "nickel notes". To rephrase, at that time, approximately 1850 through 1865, units of value of less than one U.S. dollar were supposedly issued as paper rather than (or in addition to) metal coins. I say supposedly because there seems to be only one purveyor of such "nickel notes" as collectibles now, which makes me suspicious. I can't find any other references to their existence other than a few blurry photos on Flickr by individuals with user names such as "Thoth, God of Wisdom" and similar. I checked the U.S. Federal Reserve website, and the U.S. Treasury and Mint. No joy there. I say delete. --FeralOink (talk) 14:23, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

• An alternative resolution to this would be to attempt to cite, date and define the usage context for each plausible sense of nickel note ("five cents", "five dollars", "five hundred dollars", "five thousand dollars") -- or should that be each sense of nickel? DCDuring TALK 15:05, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

I have created a citations page for it with three definitions. --BB12 (talk) 07:09, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

Kept for no consensus.--Jusjih (talk) 10:57, 19 March 2013 (UTC)