Talk:ildfugl

RFV discussion: April–July 2017

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ildfugl

Seems unlikely to be a phoenix. --G23r0f0i (talk) 17:24, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

• This is why TBot was never removed. Looking at Fugl Føniks that appears to be the correct word, and føniks appears in the Bokmålordboka and Nynorskordboka. "føniks (fra gr. 'purpurrød') i gresk mytologi: fugl som levde 500 år, brente seg selv og stod opp igjen: reise seg, stå opp igjen som en fugl føniks (av asken)". But ildfugl appears to be used in Danish, but not Norwegian, for some species of butterfly. Anyway I think this entry can be removed. DonnanZ (talk) 18:17, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

Literally translated ildfugl would be firebird, but it doesn't seem to be used in that sense either (OK, that's the bird species, not a Pontiac). DonnanZ (talk) 20:00, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

RFV failed. ODS does indeed say that this is the name of "den ildfarvede dagsommerfugl Polyommatus phlæas L.", but that may be an outdated classification. da.wiki has da:Lycaeninae, and Gyldendals Leksikon (or "Gylderen", if you're feeling irreverent) gives

ildfugle, Lycaeini, gruppe inden for dagsommerfuglegruppen blåfugle. Det er små sommerfugle med rødgyldne vinger. Larven lever på skræpper. Lille ildfugl, Lycaena phlaeas, og dukatfugl, L. virgaureae, er alm. i Danmark.

I really wouldn't know. Instead, I just deleted the page.__Gamren (talk) 18:25, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

The current name of Polyommatus phlæas is Lycaena phlaeas, and it's a butterfly with fiery colors on its wings. I suppose the fiery colors might have led to it being named after the phoenix, but Linnaeus gave it its taxonomic name in 1761, and it's native to Europe, so I'm sure the common name goes back a long way- which means any use of the word for an actual phoenix is probably long forgotten. Chuck Entz (talk) 01:53, 19 July 2017 (UTC)