Talk:fünfundfünfzigminütig

RFV discussion: August 2024

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fünfundfünfzigminütig

German. Akaibu (talk) 20:25, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

@Akaibu: Why are you doing this? I mean this is the correctly spelt out form of a commonly said word (for inflected forms). There are at least some web hits. There will only be more with … time. It will be chaotical if fünfminütig will be a lemma-form with 5-minütig an alternative form (and per pre-1996 rules 5minütig) but here 55-minütig a singular main form and so on only because somebody in dead-tree-writing times thought that only numbers lower than 13 should be written out.

Only the word itself should be attested from usage, the presently valid spellings exist accessorily from the rules and not usage. Fay Freak (talk) 20:55, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

@Fay Freak Happenstance mostly, was looking to see if we had the term "55-footer" from baseball and it came up, just saw that it had no quotes and nothing popped up on google books. feel free to ignore this/mark as resolved if it's fine as currently is. Akaibu (talk) 21:05, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

@Akaibu Please don't waste time RFV'ing terms that clearly do exist: [1]. Theknightwho (talk) 22:06, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

Being correctly spelt and claimed to be "commonly said" doesn't mean anything. "Only .. should be attested .." etc. is only an opinion.
Anyhow, all three forms – 55-minütig (common), 55minütig, and fünfundfünfzigminütig (somewhat uncommon) – exist, as can easily be seen for example at google books. (Note: Some results for "55minütig" actually contain "55- [line break] minütig", i.e. rather "55-minütig" than "55minütig".) Based on this and the statement "feel free to ignore this/mark as resolved if it's fine as currently is", it's: RFV-resolved. --07:01, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

The attestation requirement referring to the spelling variants rather than a combination of token-level representations is only a mereological opinion of some people. One is the lexeme, the options to write and pronounce it are lexes.

I therefore refuse the assumption that RFVs of them mean anything. It only increases disruptability of the manpower-expensive lexicographic process. Fay Freak (talk) 13:42, 15 August 2024 (UTC)