Talk:elaterium

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RFV discussion: April 2020

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Rfv-sense. Knowing wiktionary this might just be elaterium in Translingual Ecballium elaterium. --Marontyan (talk) 20:32, 18 April 2020 (UTC)Reply

Elaterium is an obsolete genus name for which I have just created an entry. DCDuring (talk) 22:24, 18 April 2020 (UTC)Reply
This would seem to show "extractum elaterii" to be at least partially synonymous with elaterium in the first sense. In fact, one can find various phrases such as "elaterii fructus" and "elaterii peponis" in a number of older pharmacological works, but mostly embedded in other languages. Since Ancient Greek ἐλατήριον (elatḗrion) refers to both the plant and the preparation made from it, and since New Latin tends to convert the Ancient Greek second declension neuter ending to its Latin counterpart rather than merely transliterating it, one would expect some reference to the Ancient Greek meaning in New Latin. The only difficulty is distinguishing Latin-based translingual terminology from actual Latin as used by pharmacologists and botanists. The further back you go, the less distinction there is between the two. Chuck Entz (talk) 23:58, 18 April 2020 (UTC)Reply
"extractum elaterii" above is Latin and fine for me. --Marontyan (talk) 08:30, 19 April 2020 (UTC)Reply